Emira V6 vs Cayman GTS

[Broccers]

Well that's a bit presumptuous!

Its absolutely true as the depreciation is a major factor.

Why is there an assumption that depreciation will be worse on the Emira?

Have you looked at used prices for Elise/Exige/Evora? (Which we’re all holding very strong even before todays silliness.

Yes. However we're talking 70k not 50 or 30.

[Broccers]

Yes you did. In an anonymous poll. As more than you have voted, nobody knows what your opinion is. Also, learn to spell.

Also see urban dicktionary.

Still no answer then? Surprising.

Also, I suggest you look at the dictionary you refer me to for the correct spelling of the phrase you used. Hence my original point.

Wtf are you on about. Added to ignore for being boring.

[DeskJockey]

Also see urban dicktionary.

Still no answer then? Surprising.

Also, I suggest you look at the dictionary you refer me to for the correct spelling of the phrase you used. Hence my original point.

Wtf are you on about. Added to ignore for being boring.

Oh dear. Reading comprehension not your strong suit I guess.

[Rich B]

Well that's a bit presumptuous!

Its absolutely true as the depreciation is a major factor.

Why is there an assumption that depreciation will be worse on the Emira?

Have you looked at used prices for Elise/Exige/Evora? (Which we’re all holding very strong even before todays silliness.

I was about to post - how's your depreciation Mik?

[mik]

Its absolutely true as the depreciation is a major factor.

Why is there an assumption that depreciation will be worse on the Emira?

Have you looked at used prices for Elise/Exige/Evora? (Which we’re all holding very strong even before todays silliness.

Yes. However we're talking 70k not 50 or 30.

My Evora’s list price new was £65,900. I saved £20k buying it at 2yrs old, and I reckon it’s current value starts with a 4.

That’s probably not better than an equivalent Porker, but it’s there or thereabouts non?

[Broccers]

Why is there an assumption that depreciation will be worse on the Emira?

Have you looked at used prices for Elise/Exige/Evora? (Which we’re all holding very strong even before todays silliness.

Yes. However we're talking 70k not 50 or 30.

My Evora’s list price new was £65,900. I saved £20k buying it at 2yrs old, and I reckon it’s current value starts with a 4.

That’s probably not better than an equivalent Porker, but it’s there or thereabouts non?

My very old Porsche is worth more than I paid for it proving it's the better brand

A 4.0 boxster/ Cayman for me is what I'd buy but I'm sure lotus are very enjoyable too

[Matty]

Why is there an assumption that depreciation will be worse on the Emira?

Have you looked at used prices for Elise/Exige/Evora? (Which we’re all holding very strong even before todays silliness.

Yes. However we're talking 70k not 50 or 30.

My Evora’s list price new was £65,900. I saved £20k buying it at 2yrs old, and I reckon it’s current value starts with a 4.

That’s probably not better than an equivalent Porker, but it’s there or thereabouts non?

Noticed they'd bumped the "How long until the 20k Evora?" thread on PH....it's been 7 years and Evora prices are still pretty much the same as they were then.

[scotta]

I sat in an Emira at Royal Artillery Company that had come directly from Goodwood FoS. Plus the other two cars/prototypes.

Really wanted to like it, liked the looks, the cabin - much nicer place than I expected, plus it got the gf seal of approval but I wasn’t impressed with the panel fit and especially the weird rubber seal on the front where the bumper and non opening froot (cos it’s only there for aero) was standing proud of both panels.. apparently the customer ones will have a better finish, but it ruined it for me.

That'll be the ones that were doing the dealer tour. I concur that they were a bit shoddy. They were however just mock ups. Didnt even have an engine in them. Battery and motor just to move it on and off the trailer.

[scotta]

Yes. However we're talking 70k not 50 or 30.

My Evora’s list price new was £65,900. I saved £20k buying it at 2yrs old, and I reckon it’s current value starts with a 4.

That’s probably not better than an equivalent Porker, but it’s there or thereabouts non?

My very old Porsche is worth more than I paid for it proving it's the better brand

A 4.0 boxster/ Cayman for me is what I'd buy but I'm sure lotus are very enjoyable too

My not so old Lotus is worth £10k more than I paid for it.

[duncs500]

I made a couple of £k on my first Lotus, and I suspect I would make at least £1k on my current one if I sold it.* Lotus is a rock solid investment!

* - Relative to purchase price, ignoring bills.

[IanF]

I sat in an Emira at Royal Artillery Company that had come directly from Goodwood FoS. Plus the other two cars/prototypes.

Really wanted to like it, liked the looks, the cabin - much nicer place than I expected, plus it got the gf seal of approval but I wasn’t impressed with the panel fit and especially the weird rubber seal on the front where the bumper and non opening froot (cos it’s only there for aero) was standing proud of both panels.. apparently the customer ones will have a better finish, but it ruined it for me.

That'll be the ones that were doing the dealer tour. I concur that they were a bit shoddy. They were however just mock ups. Didnt even have an engine in them. Battery and motor just to move it on and off the trailer.

Bit strange to be trying to take orders with a poorly constructed mock up. Make an effort ffs!

[mik]

I sat in an Emira at Royal Artillery Company that had come directly from Goodwood FoS. Plus the other two cars/prototypes.

Really wanted to like it, liked the looks, the cabin - much nicer place than I expected, plus it got the gf seal of approval but I wasn’t impressed with the panel fit and especially the weird rubber seal on the front where the bumper and non opening froot (cos it’s only there for aero) was standing proud of both panels.. apparently the customer ones will have a better finish, but it ruined it for me.

That'll be the ones that were doing the dealer tour. I concur that they were a bit shoddy. They were however just mock ups. Didnt even have an engine in them. Battery and motor just to move it on and off the trailer.

Bit strange to be trying to take orders with a poorly constructed mock up. Make an effort ffs!

Yeah this was very much a mock-up. To be fair, that was made pretty clear on the day (although not necessarily overly clear when they sent the invites out…)

[Mito Man]

I sat in an Emira at Royal Artillery Company that had come directly from Goodwood FoS. Plus the other two cars/prototypes.

Really wanted to like it, liked the looks, the cabin - much nicer place than I expected, plus it got the gf seal of approval but I wasn’t impressed with the panel fit and especially the weird rubber seal on the front where the bumper and non opening froot (cos it’s only there for aero) was standing proud of both panels.. apparently the customer ones will have a better finish, but it ruined it for me.

That'll be the ones that were doing the dealer tour. I concur that they were a bit shoddy. They were however just mock ups. Didnt even have an engine in them. Battery and motor just to move it on and off the trailer.

Bit strange to be trying to take orders with a poorly constructed mock up. Make an effort ffs!

This is bollocks, I remember thinking the exact same thing as you Ian and thought the car would only suit darker colours due to the black rubbers being so prominent. Lotus had 3 Emiras that I saw at Goodwood, there was a silver car on display (possibly didn't have an engine) and then a red car and a yellow car in the modern car hill climb area so they could go up and down the hill all day.
Here's the red car:

and video

[Mito Man]

Edit - apparently there was a blue car at Goodwood but it was also running as seen in these pics here
https://media.lotuscars.com/en/gallerie ... -2022.html
So that also must have an engine.

[scotta]

Edit - apparently there was a blue car at Goodwood but it was also running as seen in these pics here
https://media.lotuscars.com/en/gallerie ... -2022.html
So that also must have an engine.

The blue one posted by Mik definitely did not have an engine as I opened the rear clam. It was a wooden frame under there.

[mik]

Edit - apparently there was a blue car at Goodwood but it was also running as seen in these pics here
https://media.lotuscars.com/en/gallerie ... -2022.html
So that also must have an engine.

The blue one posted by Mik definitely did not have an engine as I opened the rear clam. It was a wooden frame under there.

That. And you weren't allowed to close the doors - I assume the opening mech was a lash-up.

[Mito Man]

I'm saying if you've sat in an Emira that was ex-goodwood it's 99% production ready. They described it as only requiring software optimisations and further fine tuning. Not night and day stuff which will change the body panels etc.

[mik]

I'm saying if you've sat in an Emira that was ex-goodwood it's 99% production ready. They described it as only requiring software optimisations and further fine tuning. Not night and day stuff which will change the body panels etc.

You might be right. Or it might only be 98%. Or 96.23% <shrugs>

If it was me, and I liked the looks, liked the cabin, and it got the other half's seal of approval, then knowing I hadn't seen a full production spec car - I'd probably want to wander along to a nearby stealership and look at a full production spec car : in order to dispel any initial concerns, or reaffirm early suspicions.

But @IanF is more than able to make his own mind up.