At least 30 asylum seekers die after dinghy capsizes in Channel.
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Do you think Priti Patel will have any emotional reaction at all to this?
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I think it's really quite sad and a massive waste of life. I don't really have the answers though.
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Two people have been rescued alive
I think that's everyone accounted for now.
I think that's everyone accounted for now.
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I had to Google that. Christ you get up to some weird shit Beany.
How about not having a sig at all?
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Perhaps she should target the ruthless criminal gangs not the asylum seekers risking their lives to get here then.
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There's been quite a few arrested this year so they must be doing.
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/1123 ... ng-france/
End of the day it's a choice to get on those boats.
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If you click through to Twitter, you'll see a very sensible suggestion that giving safe passage to asylum seekers would avoid this happening, with the happy corollary of eliminating the ruthless criminal gangs' business model.
Broccers, just so you know: letting them get here without drowning does not imply they're entitled to asylum, it's just human decency. Priti Patel is bad at that part.
Broccers, just so you know: letting them get here without drowning does not imply they're entitled to asylum, it's just human decency. Priti Patel is bad at that part.
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I dont get the sympathy with these people. France isnt a danger to their lives. Go through the proper channels, not a cold freezing one that will kill you.
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"these people" general term.
It's not vital life or death to get in those boats or lorries
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55765213
Hopefully the perps get decent sentences.
It's not vital life or death to get in those boats or lorries
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-55765213
Hopefully the perps get decent sentences.
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I don't have twitter so what are these suggestions ?
I've been wracking my brain trying to think about it and all I can think of is chartering Ferries and collecting anyone who wants to come here from the harbour- but then what ? Transporting them to illegal migrant Detention Centres and then deporting them back to their home country - where they are NOT safe. We can't deport them back to France ? They can't ALL stay
This is a fucking horrible situation...
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Yep, what's the solution proposed on Twitter? If offering safe passage over just results in eventual sending back, surely the same illegal routes will carry on being offered?
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The other thing is, one would imagine once you commit to bringing everyone over and putting them through the system, those that were being deterred by the risk and cost of an illegal crossing would no longer be deterred and the numbers would increase significantly.dinny_g wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:40 pmI don't have twitter so what are these suggestions ?
I've been wracking my brain trying to think about it and all I can think of is chartering Ferries and collecting anyone who wants to come here from the harbour- but then what ? Transporting them to illegal migrant Detention Centres and then deporting them back to their home country - where they are NOT safe. We can't deport them back to France ? They can't ALL stay
This is a fucking horrible situation...
If you did try to process and repatriate everyone (ignoring the issues with that for a moment) that wanted to come over the cost would be staggering, especially since as above the numbers would go rapidly up.
In short, it's fucked and there are no winners. If you could say we'll take everyone there at the moment and that will be the end of it then it would be fine, but there's half a world of people who would want to be here over their current situation.
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That giving safe passage to the asylum seekers would avoid this happening...
There's nothing illegal about seeking asylum. It's dangerous, certainly, but if they come here on a ferry or in a children's toy rubber dinghy then they end up in the same place: an immigration centre.
Dinny, do you not think it would cost less to transport people safely over the channel instead of this ridiculous situation where dead bodies are dragged out of the sea?
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Don't you think that taking away the risk and cost associated with crossing at the moment would dramatically increase the numbers making their way to the border Simon?
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Surely a large proportion of those being trafficked aren't destined for any official immigration centres - which supports the idea of providing the safe means across.Jobbo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:55 pmThat giving safe passage to the asylum seekers would avoid this happening...
There's nothing illegal about seeking asylum. It's dangerous, certainly, but if they come here on a ferry or in a children's toy rubber dinghy then they end up in the same place: an immigration centre.
But if you're then sending them all back, the problem just gets shifted on when the traffickers then have even more of a hold on them now they've been shown the official routes/system don't work.