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Not really, it’s pretty fucking obvious.
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Lower temp thermostat will just make the car overfuel most of the time. If you're sure its the stat then just go OEM.drcarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:17 pm Subaru didn't like the hot weather last week and being pushed a bit on the motorway. Temp gauge started to climb, could be a sticky thermostat as reports of this are quite common. I've monitored it with Torque and it sit's at around 88 degrees which I'm told it totally normal. I started looking at lower operating temp thermostats to be horrified that they cost £50, WTAF £50 for a thermostat! Anyway it's a case of needs must so i'll just order one when I get back from holiday.
In other news my mower is now ready for the 12hr endurance race having been totally rebuilt with 90% new parts. I'm running 2 teams this year with a boys team (mine and my mates boys who are just 16 now and another guy i recruited yesterday) and the usual senior team. The boys are running our reliable but somewhat heavy wheelhorse as i'd like them to spend time racing it and not fixing it. Hopefully it will see them to the best newcomer trophy. We are running my machine which is faster but needs a bit more mechanical sympathy, we should be able to bring it home in the top 5 if we can keep it going with the prime engine.
Carl.
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Lowered workshop.
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Don't gifs work on here?
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Has dan made a wooden/cardboard Elise, like that "911" which was doing the rounds a few years ago?
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Taking the F-Pace into the dealership for not-a-service.
Bought Apr17 it called for a service in Nov17 at 4k miles. I had negotiated a 5yr service plan into the deal, so since it was free - I got them to service it.
The service warning came on again a couple of weeks ago. It is not due by either time or mileage (they dont have clever variable interview - it is annually or 10k miles (I think)). So taking it in tomorrow so they can not service it - insisting they do something as I am not risking the warranty. Whilst it is in they can look at the powered tailgate - one of the struts has started clicking as it moves.
Bought Apr17 it called for a service in Nov17 at 4k miles. I had negotiated a 5yr service plan into the deal, so since it was free - I got them to service it.
The service warning came on again a couple of weeks ago. It is not due by either time or mileage (they dont have clever variable interview - it is annually or 10k miles (I think)). So taking it in tomorrow so they can not service it - insisting they do something as I am not risking the warranty. Whilst it is in they can look at the powered tailgate - one of the struts has started clicking as it moves.
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I was going to say similar. If it's into overheating the thermostat is (or should be) fully open, a lower temperature rating won't make any difference to that.
Also, thermostats are designed to fail open. I've had several do that and make the car run too cold, but never had one fail semi-closed.
If a standard spec part is cheap then bung one in and see what happens.
FWIW the 996 fanbois get all frothy about low temperature thermostats too. I'm really not convinced.
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You shouldn't ever need one one a normal road car unless you're constant full power for long periods, even then if it can't hold a constant temperature it's only going to give a slight buffer of a few degrees before it climbs past it anyway.
If a fresh thermostat doesn't solve it it points to issues elsewhere in the cooling system.
If a fresh thermostat doesn't solve it it points to issues elsewhere in the cooling system.
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Thats just simply not true and like most of the expert opinion on the internet just serves to perpetuate myths and lies, a (slightly) lower temperature thermostat won't cause it to over fuel at all, you're confusing running slightly cooler with the warm up cycle and cold start, which needs to be richer than usual in order to wet the port walls and get the things to start.mr_jon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:35 pmLower temp thermostat will just make the car overfuel most of the time. If you're sure its the stat then just go OEM.drcarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:17 pm Subaru didn't like the hot weather last week and being pushed a bit on the motorway. Temp gauge started to climb, could be a sticky thermostat as reports of this are quite common. I've monitored it with Torque and it sit's at around 88 degrees which I'm told it totally normal. I started looking at lower operating temp thermostats to be horrified that they cost £50, WTAF £50 for a thermostat! Anyway it's a case of needs must so i'll just order one when I get back from holiday.
In other news my mower is now ready for the 12hr endurance race having been totally rebuilt with 90% new parts. I'm running 2 teams this year with a boys team (mine and my mates boys who are just 16 now and another guy i recruited yesterday) and the usual senior team. The boys are running our reliable but somewhat heavy wheelhorse as i'd like them to spend time racing it and not fixing it. Hopefully it will see them to the best newcomer trophy. We are running my machine which is faster but needs a bit more mechanical sympathy, we should be able to bring it home in the top 5 if we can keep it going with the prime engine.
Carl.
Quite often running production cars on a cooler stat produces more power. Running at 90 degrees is for fuel economy not power, if you want power run your car at 70 degrees. Of course, if it makes more power it'll use more fuel, but thats not the same as 'overfuelling', whatever that means.
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I found a high flow 77 Degree activation thermostat, it's about 10 degrees lower than the OEM and only £25. I'm pretty sure that it's not something major like HGF or such like as it uses no water, does not boil up and there is no mayo in the oil. There are lots of reports of people getting high temps on track days and one of the respected mappers fedback to others that a change of stat should sort it as they are known to get sticky. It's been 10 days and it's not done it again, but then again I haven't given it stick for an extended period since.dan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:53 amThats just simply not true and like most of the expert opinion on the internet just serves to perpetuate myths and lies, a (slightly) lower temperature thermostat won't cause it to over fuel at all, you're confusing running slightly cooler with the warm up cycle and cold start, which needs to be richer than usual in order to wet the port walls and get the things to start.mr_jon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:35 pmLower temp thermostat will just make the car overfuel most of the time. If you're sure its the stat then just go OEM.drcarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:17 pm Subaru didn't like the hot weather last week and being pushed a bit on the motorway. Temp gauge started to climb, could be a sticky thermostat as reports of this are quite common. I've monitored it with Torque and it sit's at around 88 degrees which I'm told it totally normal. I started looking at lower operating temp thermostats to be horrified that they cost £50, WTAF £50 for a thermostat! Anyway it's a case of needs must so i'll just order one when I get back from holiday.
In other news my mower is now ready for the 12hr endurance race having been totally rebuilt with 90% new parts. I'm running 2 teams this year with a boys team (mine and my mates boys who are just 16 now and another guy i recruited yesterday) and the usual senior team. The boys are running our reliable but somewhat heavy wheelhorse as i'd like them to spend time racing it and not fixing it. Hopefully it will see them to the best newcomer trophy. We are running my machine which is faster but needs a bit more mechanical sympathy, we should be able to bring it home in the top 5 if we can keep it going with the prime engine.
Carl.
Quite often running production cars on a cooler stat produces more power. Running at 90 degrees is for fuel economy not power, if you want power run your car at 70 degrees. Of course, if it makes more power it'll use more fuel, but thats not the same as 'overfuelling', whatever that means.
I might get that and the 2 bottom ball joints (it's still knocking) and take it to my mates oop norf.
Carl.
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Virtual shrug, meh. The OE fuel maps I've looked at for 90's and 00's Toyota engines - from performance to economy engines - all have some level of enrichment below standard thermostat opening temp.dan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:53 amThats just simply not true and like most of the expert opinion on the internet just serves to perpetuate myths and lies, a (slightly) lower temperature thermostat won't cause it to over fuel at all, you're confusing running slightly cooler with the warm up cycle and cold start, which needs to be richer than usual in order to wet the port walls and get the things to start.mr_jon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:35 pmLower temp thermostat will just make the car overfuel most of the time. If you're sure its the stat then just go OEM.drcarlos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:17 pm Subaru didn't like the hot weather last week and being pushed a bit on the motorway. Temp gauge started to climb, could be a sticky thermostat as reports of this are quite common. I've monitored it with Torque and it sit's at around 88 degrees which I'm told it totally normal. I started looking at lower operating temp thermostats to be horrified that they cost £50, WTAF £50 for a thermostat! Anyway it's a case of needs must so i'll just order one when I get back from holiday.
In other news my mower is now ready for the 12hr endurance race having been totally rebuilt with 90% new parts. I'm running 2 teams this year with a boys team (mine and my mates boys who are just 16 now and another guy i recruited yesterday) and the usual senior team. The boys are running our reliable but somewhat heavy wheelhorse as i'd like them to spend time racing it and not fixing it. Hopefully it will see them to the best newcomer trophy. We are running my machine which is faster but needs a bit more mechanical sympathy, we should be able to bring it home in the top 5 if we can keep it going with the prime engine.
Carl.
Quite often running production cars on a cooler stat produces more power. Running at 90 degrees is for fuel economy not power, if you want power run your car at 70 degrees. Of course, if it makes more power it'll use more fuel, but thats not the same as 'overfuelling', whatever that means.
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Continuing with the theme of window cleaning, I have (finally) replaced the broken washer bottle filler cap. While it was off I also topped up the screenwash and then checked the oil as I realised I'd never pulled the dipstick on it before.
In terms of skills required and effort it ranks only slightly below what Flewy is doing with the 'grale.
In terms of skills required and effort it ranks only slightly below what Flewy is doing with the 'grale.
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Not my car but I know some of you appreciate an old Ford.
My friend, who builds classic rally cars for a living, has finally found the time to build a car for his own use. Not surprisingly it's a mk1 Escort although a road car rather than a rally car. He has spent the last few months working on it when he can and preparing the shell for paint and ordering many many parts. The engine is a brand new Zetec with lots of trick parts. The attention to detail he's putting into the prep is mind blowing and when finished it will be a stunner.
A few pics
The paintwork is outstanding and is a true mirror finish. This was done by a company called Normadale who paint for many motorsport teams including Williams F1. I'll stick a few other pics up as the car is built.
My friend, who builds classic rally cars for a living, has finally found the time to build a car for his own use. Not surprisingly it's a mk1 Escort although a road car rather than a rally car. He has spent the last few months working on it when he can and preparing the shell for paint and ordering many many parts. The engine is a brand new Zetec with lots of trick parts. The attention to detail he's putting into the prep is mind blowing and when finished it will be a stunner.
A few pics
The paintwork is outstanding and is a true mirror finish. This was done by a company called Normadale who paint for many motorsport teams including Williams F1. I'll stick a few other pics up as the car is built.
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The Audi has recently been round the Alps and down to the south of France and coped admirably. It’s been at Audi this week for a major service, MOT and recall work. I opened the boot yesterday and saw that they’d left a branded bag of cleaning stuff in there, looking online they sell for about £60
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John wrote: ↑Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:01 pm Not my car but I know some of you appreciate an old Ford.
My friend, who builds classic rally cars for a living, has finally found the time to build a car for his own use. Not surprisingly it's a mk1 Escort although a road car rather than a rally car. He has spent the last few months working on it when he can and preparing the shell for paint and ordering many many parts. The engine is a brand new Zetec with lots of trick parts. The attention to detail he's putting into the prep is mind blowing and when finished it will be a stunner.
A few pics
The paintwork is outstanding and is a true mirror finish. This was done by a company called Normadale who paint for many motorsport teams including Williams F1. I'll stick a few other pics up as the car is built.
Hope it'll get used, abused and enjoyed!
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I'm no expert, but the wheelbase looks a little short and it could do with bigger wheels.
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Normandale do some lovely work don’t they, they paint all of the Jordan Race Teams cars including the very successful austin a40 that my mate in the other half of my unit does the engines for, the paint is stunning.