Trump

[Mito Man]

The BBC interview right now

[Beany]

For those of us who work for a living....?

[Gavin]

For those of us who work for a living....?

Indeed, fired up my work laptop for the first time since March so can't just watch TV all day any more!

[DeskJockey]

For those of us who work for a living....?

Indeed, fired up my work laptop for the first time since March so can't just watch TV all day any more!

Nonsense. It'll spend the most of the day doing updates and synchronising. Relax!

[GG.]

Is there even any point in polling organisations any more?

You Gov's final call:



Currently sitting at 238 Biden to 213 Trump.

[Ascender]

Wow... that speech where he's decided he's won so they should just stop counting votes now.

Incredible stuff.

Haven’t seen that. Has to be Trump of course.

He was like that drunken old uncle making a rambling speech at a family wedding at about 2am in the morning. It was like peak Trump, he did a greatest hits of all his usual bullshit, lies and incoherent nonsense that he's been sprouting for the last 3/4 years.

Every time I hear him speak, it amazes me that anybody with half a braincell could vote for him.

[Beany]

I'm increasingly thinking that America is turning into a failed state, honestly. There has to be something badly, badly wrong with them if they think turning their country into an authoritarian shithole to 'own the libs' is an appealing idea.

Which a significant amount of the population seem to agree with.

[ZedLeg]

It is a failed state, it's been bled dry by a few at the top and now they're picking through the scraps.

[Simon]

James O'Brien has summed it up best. 'Now Trump winning is second worst thing that could happen'.

Referring to the idea that Trump gets the seat by 'cheating'.

[GG.]

You can argue about it being irresponsible but all these stupid announcements are just posturing - its really not worth getting that worked up about and/or is certainly not anything unexpected from Trump.

If necessary the normal legal processes will take place to challenge discrepancies etc., order recounts, etc. as has been done many times previously in US elections and it is also not unheard of for weeks to go by and court hearings to be needed before a new president is sworn in. It didn't lead to the collapse of democracy then and now is no different.

[ZedLeg]

You can argue about it being irresponsible but all these stupid announcements are just posturing - its really not worth getting that worked up about and/or is certainly not anything unexpected from Trump.

If necessary the normal legal processes will take place to challenge discrepancies etc., order recounts, etc. as has been done many times previously in US elections and it is also not unheard of for weeks to go by and court hearings to be needed before a new president in sworn in. It didn't lead to the collapse of democracy then and now is no different.

The difference is that Trump has a huge amount of people who are willing to do insane things based on what he says and no other evidence.

The last time I remember a US election being really controversial was the whole Bush Florida thing in 2000 and the cultural climate in the US is completely different now.

[Swervin_Mervin]

Anyone know why BBC is reporting 224/213 where every other outlet is reporting 238/213?

[Simon]

I guess in electoral systems where you really only get to chose from 2 sides....

WRONG! Kanye West was on the ballot paper!

Not sure if that is true but even if it was, that is like saying the Monster Raving Loony Party could win over here because they are on the ballot.

Link

[Delphi]

Anyone know why BBC is reporting 224/213 where every other outlet is reporting 238/213?

The BBC seems to err on the side of caution with its results. Other outlets seem to be a little more gung ho.

[Broccers]

James O'Brien

Biggest twat on the radio

[Simon]

James O'Brien

Biggest twat on the radio

That's odd, I figured that out of all of us you'd be his biggest fan.

[Ascender]

I’m genuinely flabbergasted by just how many people have voted for him after he’s presided over and stoked, a dumpster fire of hatred.

As for having faith in the Supreme Court, did he not rush through the appointment of his preferred nominee for Chief Justice which has also given them a majority there?

[McSwede]

Anyone know why BBC is reporting 224/213 where every other outlet is reporting 238/213?

The BBC seems to err on the side of caution with its results. Other outlets seem to be a little more gung ho.

Some American networks are calling States even though there are still a lot of votes to be counted. I've been watching CNN who have been more realistic.

Trump is a cunt of the highest order and he's going to get beaten!

Biden is 3/10 on Betfair now. The orange Oranguchild is 5/2.

[Simon]

Yes.

I think I've given up on the USA now.

My wife was saying that one day she'd like to move out there. A cousin of hers has married a famous sports presenter from one of the TV networks and loves it. I just see it as a broken, unsafe crack den run by lunatics, liars and racists.

[Swervin_Mervin]

I’m genuinely flabbergasted by just how many people have voted for him after he’s presided over and stoked, a dumpster fire of hatred.

Covers it fairly well.