Coronavirus

[integrale_evo]

What site are you guys using for statistics ??

I’ve been using worldometers.com consistently for a good few months now and based on the trends that site reports, things aren’t as bad as other sources suggest. Confirmed infections fluctuating but 23k to 28k range for a good few weeks of the second wave - but 18k today etc.

Deaths in the 100 to 200 range but level etc.

Sunday and especially Mondays figures have been low ever since they started doing the daily figures at the start of the whole thing. Every week people were getting excited by the figures slowing or dropping only for tuesdays to put them back where they were

Doesn’t look particularly level at the moment to me

[dinny_g]

It’s more you read the headlines sometimes, doom and gloom, 4000 deaths by Christmas and you check our worldometers, fearing the worst to find 2x,000 infections and 1x0 deaths... for the third week running or more.

We went from a few hundred to a few thousand to 20k pretty quickly but it seems to be reasonably stable for a while now...

[integrale_evo]

Stable but at a high level isn’t good if the hospitals are filling up. People are still catching it quicker than those that have got it are recovering and leaving the system.

[McSwede]

I'm left wondering what percentage of the construction industry either contract, or spread coronavirus. I was on site this morning and was the only one wearing a mask in a fairly small bar area with around 12 people inside. The tradesmen were carrying on like they had free reign, backslapping, passing/chatting on stairs etc. Absolutely zero fucking distancing effort at all from each other, or me - an outsider. What a shitshow.

And this is my experience of being on site or around tradesmen over the last few months.

[Swervin_Mervin]

What site are you guys using for statistics ??

The Govt's own page publishes the 7-day averages for daily infections and deaths. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

This morning they were at c23k infections and, IIRC, c180 deaths. Seems to now be at 18k and 130 respectively.

The problem with all of this is that, whilst generally I'd agree that things still aren't great and a short lockdown is possibly not a bad idea, if you keep presenting data to look like your actions are informed directly by "the science" then you have to make sure it's fairly watertight. Keep presenting "projections" or "scenarios" that are based on out of date information, thereby potentially leading to massive margins of error, completely undermines the whole point of presenting any science based data at all. And these days it's very, very easy to find all of this information very quickly, and for it to be spread very quickly.

[John]

My wife's uncle has died from this today, 77 years old but was fit and healthy. He became ill last week and to be on the safe said he was sent to hospital but was coping well with it and was being prepared to be sent home to recover. However, today he was rushed into intensive care and deteriorated rapidly.

[Simon]

What site are you guys using for statistics ??

I’ve been using worldometers.com consistently for a good few months now and based on the trends that site reports, things aren’t as bad as other sources suggest. Confirmed infections fluctuating but 23k to 28k range for a good few weeks of the second wave - but 18k today etc.

Deaths in the 100 to 200 range but level etc.

19k today.

I'm using the official government data site here and occasionally the new site currently in beta here. I'm thinking of hooking into their published API and pulling the numbers into something more useful.

[Simon]

My wife's uncle has died from this today, 77 years old but was fit and healthy. He became ill last week and to be on the safe said he was sent to hospital but was coping well with it and was being prepared to be sent home to recover. However, today he was rushed into intensive care and deteriorated rapidly.

Condolences to you and particularly your wife John.

[Simon]

What site are you guys using for statistics ??

The Govt's own page publishes the 7-day averages for daily infections and deaths. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

This morning they were at c23k infections and, IIRC, c180 deaths. Seems to now be at 18k and 130 respectively.

The problem with all of this is that, whilst generally I'd agree that things still aren't great and a short lockdown is possibly not a bad idea, if you keep presenting data to look like your actions are informed directly by "the science" then you have to make sure it's fairly watertight. Keep presenting "projections" or "scenarios" that are based on out of date information, thereby potentially leading to massive margins of error, completely undermines the whole point of presenting any science based data at all. And these days it's very, very easy to find all of this information very quickly, and for it to be spread very quickly.

I agree. I suggested on the last page that it may be that we've already peaked in the second wave. The numbers have looked stable for 2 weeks now and have started to dip a little.

The slides presented by PV had 'scenario' on them, not projection or even prediction. Is it too much to ask our scientists to be a little more scientific?

[Broccers]

My wife's uncle has died from this today, 77 years old but was fit and healthy. He became ill last week and to be on the safe said he was sent to hospital but was coping well with it and was being prepared to be sent home to recover. However, today he was rushed into intensive care and deteriorated rapidly.

Sorry to read John. My dad's 77 and half the time forgets to be safe. It's this very age range that needs to keep away from people and especially hospital imo.

[Broccers]

Worth a listen. The front benches of this current guv are proper lightweights.

[DeskJockey]

My wife's uncle has died from this today, 77 years old but was fit and healthy. He became ill last week and to be on the safe said he was sent to hospital but was coping well with it and was being prepared to be sent home to recover. However, today he was rushed into intensive care and deteriorated rapidly.

Sorry for your loss.

[Ascender]

My wife's uncle has died from this today, 77 years old but was fit and healthy. He became ill last week and to be on the safe said he was sent to hospital but was coping well with it and was being prepared to be sent home to recover. However, today he was rushed into intensive care and deteriorated rapidly.

Sorry for your loss, thoughts are with you and your family.

[Swervin_Mervin]

My wife's uncle has died from this today, 77 years old but was fit and healthy. He became ill last week and to be on the safe said he was sent to hospital but was coping well with it and was being prepared to be sent home to recover. However, today he was rushed into intensive care and deteriorated rapidly.

Really soory to hear that John.

[John]

Thanks all.

[Broccers]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... mid-claims

It's quite astonishing the amount of money wasted so far.

[nuttinnew]

My condolences, John.

[unzippy]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... mid-claims

It's quite astonishing the amount of money wasted so far.

0.000375% of the 12 billion they spent on track and trace...

[Simon]

0.375%

[unzippy]

Must have got carried away with my zeros!