Coronavirus

[Broccers]

All these mass gatherings seem to produce little spikes or hospital admissions. Kinda makes a mockery of the scare tactics.

Taking loads of drugs makes you immune, obvs.

[Simon]

Bring the water cannon out and give them the first wash for most of them in weeks....

[Broccers]

They are ramping up THE FEAR in Msm - next lockdown will result in noone complying

[unzippy]

Stage 4 for another 6 weeks.

Necessary goods and services:
To shop for necessary goods and services.
You can only travel up to 5km from your home. You should stay as close to your home as possible, for example shopping at the nearest supermarket. For some people the nearest goods and services will be more than 5km away. In this situation you may travel beyond 5km to the nearest provider.
Only one person per household can leave home to get necessary goods and services and only once a day (this means you can’t do multiple shopping trips in a day). You should limit the time you spend away from home. If you are unable to leave home because it would mean leaving a young child or at-risk person at home unattended then they may accompany you.

Exercise:
You can leave home to exercise but there are limits:
You must not travel more than 5km from where you live to exercise.
You can exercise with one other person you live with or a friend or family member, as long as neither of you travel more than 5km from your home. Please use common sense and limit the number of people you see in person right now. It is safer to connect with friends and family using phone calls, social media and video calls. If you are exercising with someone else, you should keep 1.5 metres distance between you. Don’t hug, kiss or shake hands.
You must limit your exercise to once a day and for only one hour.
If you are a parent or guardian who is caring for a young child or someone who cannot be left unattended then they may accompany you.

Care and health care:
You can leave home to receive health care or attend medical appointments. If you need to see a doctor or health care professional, you should do so. Do not put off getting medical care. Your doctor or health care professional can provide advice on how to stay safe.
You can leave home to care for a sick or elderly relative. If you are providing care for someone you should try to keep 1.5 metres between you when you can. Wear a face covering.
You can leave home to accompany someone for essential medical treatment if you are a parent, guardian or necessary support person.
You can take a pet to the vet.

Work:
If you can work from home, you must continue to work from home. Further announcements regarding workplaces will be made in the coming days.
Study at TAFE and university must be done remotely.

Personal:
You can still visit an intimate partner.
Shared parenting arrangements, both formal and informal, can continue for children.
You can leave home if there is an emergency.
You can leave home if there is family violence, or violence by another person in the home, and you are at risk. If you are stopped by police, tell them you are feeling unsafe at home and they will help you. Safe accommodation and support for family violence is available. Call safe steps on 1800 015 188 or email safesteps@safesteps.org.au for help 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

+ 2 more weeks

[KiwiDave]

I'm not 100% on what's actually going on in Melbourne/Victoria Dave? Lockdown keeps running and running there but seems like no real ground is being made? What's actually going on?

[duncs500]

In Cornwall last week, and it was notable how thorough the measures were there compared to home. It makes sense given that they have people from everywhere visiting, but I hadn't really thought about it so it surprised me.

[Broccers]

In Cornwall last week, and it was notable how thorough the measures were there compared to home. It makes sense given that they have people from everywhere visiting, but I hadn't really thought about it so it surprised me.

One of the reasons we are staying in an apartment next week is to avoid the rules in hotels, it's just not relaxing having to abide to guidelines. Even going to the local pub is a pain so much so I rarely bother.

Just waiting for the spike from Students going back. There historically has been flu / colds when all these new people are thrown together so only going to happen as normal this year.

[dinny_g]

Do you give any credence to the view that lockdown restrictions being removed has caused an increase in infections (Big number yesterday 3k odd) ) but existing social distancing and the addition of facemasks mean that new people being infected are getting much lower doses and tend to be younger meaning recovery is the outcome. Only 2 new deaths reported yesterday ?

[Broccers]

I'm unsure but shutting down a whole school where one person has tested positive seems OTT. Also I would be more swayed if we have figures on how many people are in hospital being treated - seems to be lacking as the number is very low. Easier to control the populous with higher numbers which is easy with more testing going off.

[Rich B]

I think the spikes have come from people going on holiday. Thankfully most of these people aren't old/at risk so deaths haven't followed.

[Swervin_Mervin]

There was an Oxford Prof saying last week that we're doing a lot more testing than during the peak, and the tests are more sensitive. So chances are that we're now picking up many of those asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic people that have picked it up, that we previously could only guess at.

[drcarlos]

I think the spikes have come from people going on holiday. Thankfully most of these people aren't old/at risk so deaths haven't followed.

Did they inadvertently or maybe even by planning (to instill fear in the rest of the popualtion) kill off 90% of people that were at risk of death in the peak earlier in the year with the care homes thing (NYC seemed to be showing a similar trend)?

[Ascender]

Do you give any credence to the view that lockdown restrictions being removed has caused an increase in infections (Big number yesterday 3k odd) ) but existing social distancing and the addition of facemasks mean that new people being infected are getting much lower doses and tend to be younger meaning recovery is the outcome. Only 2 new deaths reported yesterday ?

That's exactly the theory I've read a few times over the weekend.

A few kids have tested positive at my boy's school, but they've all returned quickly and the school seems very well organised in terms of sending other kids who've had close contact home for a week or so, then everyone comes back a week or so later. And repeat.

[McSwede]

In Cornwall last week, and it was notable how thorough the measures were there compared to home. It makes sense given that they have people from everywhere visiting, but I hadn't really thought about it so it surprised me.

One of the reasons we are staying in an apartment next week is to avoid the rules in hotels, it's just not relaxing having to abide to guidelines. Even going to the local pub is a pain so much so I rarely bother.

Just waiting for the spike from Students going back. There historically has been flu / colds when all these new people are thrown together so only going to happen as normal this year.

Hotels are no bother really. I've stayed in several over the last few weeks. Breakfast is bolloxed but other than that it's fine.

[Broccers]

Hotels are no bother really. I've stayed in several over the last few weeks. Breakfast is bolloxed but other than that it's fine.

Yes I see what you are saying but in the two we stayed in last month it wasn't brilliant, no atmosphere or buzz like normal. Malmaison newcastle used c19 as an excuse not to clean your room and only did it after 3 days.

[McSwede]

Hotels are no bother really. I've stayed in several over the last few weeks. Breakfast is bolloxed but other than that it's fine.

Yes I see what you are saying but in the two we stayed in last month it wasn't brilliant, no atmosphere or buzz like normal. Malmaison newcastle used c19 as an excuse not to clean your room and only did it after 3 days.

Lol. Deffo no atmosphere! There's no bugger there so parking has been ace though.

[Simon]

I'm still annoyed that they didn't clean the Yeti when it went in for a service and MOT a couple of months back. They used the Coronavirus excuse not to wash it, even on the outside.

I'm thinking "What, they're using Coronavirus as an excuse NOT to use soap and water? Huh??"

[unzippy]

I'm not 100% on what's actually going on in Melbourne/Victoria Dave? Lockdown keeps running and running there but seems like no real ground is being made? What's actually going on?

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/victorian-c ... id-19-data - scroll down a bit. Progress is definitely being made.

[KiwiDave]

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/victorian-c ... id-19-data - scroll down a bit. Progress is definitely being made.

That's actually beginning to look pretty good. Top job.

[duncs500]

Do you give any credence to the view that lockdown restrictions being removed has caused an increase in infections (Big number yesterday 3k odd) ) but existing social distancing and the addition of facemasks mean that new people being infected are getting much lower doses and tend to be younger meaning recovery is the outcome. Only 2 new deaths reported yesterday ?

That's exactly the theory I've read a few times over the weekend.

Hopefully, but it'll take weeks for the number of deaths to increase on the back of the increased cases.

You can add to the above list that they're getting better at treating as well though, that will improve the death numbers.