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Re: New Car

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:06 am
by nuttinnew
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:25 am
nuttinnew wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:05 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:37 am

The GT3 uses the C4 body because it’s stiffer from the firewall forward. Some people prefer the C4 steering feel because of this and the slightly improved weight distribution (38:62 for the C2 vs 40:60 for the C4). If one were inclined, it’s relatively easy to ditch the front diff, propshaft and drive shafts and replace the front hubs with C2 items.

Hang on a mo', what about the diff & shafts wrt the weight distribution?
I would’ve thought it was obvious that the diff and driveshafts were a major part in the shift in weight distribution?

It is. I was trying to follow the thinking of the some people who may be inclined to buy a C4 because they prefer the steering feel, then remove a large reason for that improvement :?



Edit; ooh, more scans on the previous page. Thanks Mike 8-)

Re: New Car

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:28 am
by Mike1215
JLv3.0 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:01 am 4.8 or 5.2 then. 5.2 sounds more like what I had in mind - sorry Mike. Disappointing you again :lol:

(I also never knew the 360 was 100kg lighter than the 355).
5.2 was the Porsche claim to 62mph in the ‘First Drive’ story

4.8 was the actual Autocar test time to 60mph

Bit slower than the lighter rwd car to 60 in the dry .....but then traction off the line has never been an issue for 911s

Re: New Car

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:43 am
by mik
I think the only solution is an evolution of the mandatory e-start vid : to include a timed 0-60.

You're first up Rev. :geek:

Re: New Car

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:00 am
by Mike1215
mik wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:43 am I think the only solution is an evolution of the mandatory e-start vid : to include a timed 0-60.

You're first up Rev. :geek:
Should be a proper 996-off with all the forum variants really.....

Ring Bruntingthorpe and arrange it please Mik with all haste and gusto.....

Re: New Car

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:18 am
by GG.
I must correct my previous criticism on power figures WRT Autocar. They seem 100% bob on with their bhp v PS stats. 8-)

Re: New Car

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:28 pm
by Mike1215
GG. wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:18 am I must correct my previous criticism on power figures WRT Autocar. They seem 100% bob on with their bhp v PS stats. 8-)
They often make typos or don't proofread things like a lot of mags are guilty of.

Generally though I've found they're pretty close on most of the info and they can usually smell a rat or provide corroborative information when cars are seemingly too fast or too slow for their performance.

Plus, they are often the only UK mag that actually tests a car with proper timing gear or actually puts it on a weighbridge to see what the real weight is rather than takes the manufacturers' fiction figures.

They aren't perfect but I find them interesting.

Despite many people's claims about the road testers they are usually fairly handy behind the wheel too.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:49 am
by NotoriousREV
Been awake since 4am. I’m a bit excited.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:20 am
by unzippy
Have you left yet?

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:35 am
by NotoriousREV
unzippy wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:20 am Have you left yet?
Sat at the train station now.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:45 am
by evostick
This is so exciting.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:51 am
by RobYob
nuttinnew wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:06 am
NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:25 am
nuttinnew wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:05 am


Hang on a mo', what about the diff & shafts wrt the weight distribution?
I would’ve thought it was obvious that the diff and driveshafts were a major part in the shift in weight distribution?

It is. I was trying to follow the thinking of the some people who may be inclined to buy a C4 because they prefer the steering feel, then remove a large reason for that improvement :?
Wasn't the idea that the stiffer front end structure was responsible for the improved steering feel in spite of the worse polar moment* due to front diff/shafts.

*Feel free to start and argument about weight distribution vs polar moment for steering feel :D

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
by NotoriousREV
Polar moment is like the tracks on a tank, driven by a dark brown mole.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:15 am
by Mike1215
Meanwhile, here’s the Carrera 4 in an EVO 4wd Handling test

Image

Get a grip!

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:26 am
by mik
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am Polar moment.
Image

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:13 pm
by Beany
NotoriousREV wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:49 am Been awake since 4am. I’m a bit excited.
Got it yet?

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:15 pm
by Jobbo
Slower than an original Audi S3 in that handling test. Wonder how it compares with a current Golf R which has ~50% more power? :lol:

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:32 pm
by Jimmy Choo
I've just had a call from the hospital. Rev has been admitted and is on a drip due to severe dehydration after splumphing all the moisture in his body over his new car.

On an unrelated note, does anyone have Richard Tipper's phone number. Rev has a challenge for him.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:34 pm
by Broccers
evostick wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:45 am This is so exciting.
It is apart from when Dave gets there and theyve sold it to someone else as he didnt sign something :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good luck 8-)

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:58 pm
by ShockDiamonds
Genuinely hope it turns out ok for him today. With all the aggro with his BIL in recent months, he certainly deserves it.

Re: New Car

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:46 pm
by Sundayjumper
Cheer for lunch REV 8-)

I'll let you break the bad news to everyone....