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Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:32 pm
by integrale_evo
Surely they only have a moulded on plug because mains appliances are supposed to come with them fitted and a moulded jobbie is cheaper for them to manufacture?

I guess if one failed with a diy plug on it they'd just claim you'd wired it wrong and tell you to fro :lol:

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:05 pm
by Mito Man
It’s all part of the wank silicone valley design language, no exposed screws, makes it look more slick, form over function.

Edit - this also puts it at risk of a Sonos style screw over in a few years time where they can just pull support once they come out with a new fancy 4k camera and deem these as too old to support. But it really is the only cctv system which isn’t pure crap.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:42 pm
by Ascender
Stick-up cam has arrived and its brilliant. I can’t fault the product, the instructions, the packaging, the ease-of-setup, any of it. Even the cost.

When I think about the hoops I had to jump through with this Hikvision shit, I’m amazed stuff like this hasn’t put them all out of business overnight.

Nice long power cable which can be stashed easily in the outdoor office as its yet to be finished.

Image quality is excellent and that single camera will cover the back of the house, so I think I’ll get one for the front. Only problem is getting power to it. There’s a suitable hole in the stonework for a cat6 cable, but the connector on the power cord is L shaped. I’m thinking I just cut it open and splice it back together, possibly even at a bit of the cable which will be inside the house? In the event the camera fails, they’re not going to ask for the cable pack?

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:49 pm
by Mito Man
So the stick up cam has a removable cable? Good to know.
Yeah I’d just cut it.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:50 pm
by mik
Or get a solar panel? I haven’t bothered as I thought 1 panel would be able to support 2cams placed beside each other looking in different directions, but apparently not :roll:

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:05 pm
by Ascender
Yes, its a removable cable and the outdoor adapter cable is chunkier and adds a good bit of length too.

I’d kind of ruled out the solar panel thing, but you’re right, maybe that with a battery will be adequate for the front of the house.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:33 pm
by mik
I use the Holaka mounts btw (example seller below - other cellars are available) - provide a rather wider range of adjustment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOLACA-Wall- ... fwsAkBFTgg

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:34 pm
by Ascender
mik wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:33 pm I use the Holaka mounts btw (example seller below - other cellars are available) - provide a rather wider range of adjustment.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOLACA-Wall- ... fwsAkBFTgg
Thanks, that’s just what I need for the front one!

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 9:27 am
by Mito Man
Well looks like I didn’t put the camera high enough :lol:
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Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:03 pm
by Ascender
That’s a great view! 🐄 🐄 🐄 🐄

Have taken down the old Hikvision cameras and boy, the mountings are just absolutely full of crud - spider webs, spider babies, cobwebs etc.

Now with all the cameras and the NVR on my desk, not a single one is working! Got to love this tech. I CBA faffing about with it today, its all going in a box in the cupboard, maybe that will fix it.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:45 am
by Delphi
I've been researching CCTV recently and have come to the conclusion that all the home oriented stuff is either utter bobbins that doesn't work or over-priced cloud-based stuff that has a questionable long-term future. I'm seriously considering just getting some industrial quality stuff from a specialist wholesaler and putting it all together myself.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 1:24 pm
by Mito Man
I still think the Swann stuff is the best bang for buck, the cameras and DVR are all plastic but they hold up well for 4-5 years and it’s all easy to set up.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 2:54 pm
by Ascender
Mito Man wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 1:24 pm I still think the Swann stuff is the best bang for buck, the cameras and DVR are all plastic but they hold up well for 4-5 years and it’s all easy to set up.
I was about to say the same, a couple of the guys at work swear by Swann stuff for home setups.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:18 am
by Delphi
So I decided that I couldn't be arsed running cables everywhere and bought a Eufy Cam setup. It uses a proprietary high frequency comms signal (not WiFi) and the cameras are supposed to last 6 months on a 5 hour charge. The software and setup was an absolute piece of piss and the performance so far has been really good. Best of all there's no cloud storage fees as it stores everything on a local box. They also have a very impressive video doorbell that's much better than the Ring doorbell we had and again, no extra fees.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:38 am
by mik
Sounds good. 8-)

I am a big fan of our RING setup, but open-minded.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:05 pm
by JonMad
I picked up a Blink Mini camera for a tenner on a Prime deal as a first dabble in this stuff. Just an internal camera, and USB powered so would need to run a long cable if mounting it anywhere useful. And looks like I'd need to pay for cloud storage fo clips after March 2021, or buy a separate box for it to write to. Still, handy for keeping an eye on the kids from an Echo Show in the kitchen just using the camera's live view.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:01 am
by Barry
Delphi wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:18 am So I decided that I couldn't be arsed running cables everywhere and bought a Eufy Cam setup.
Just reading up on that kit, which frequency WiFi does it connect to, my old camera is useless as my Sky router is 5Ghz not 2.4Ghz.
Also, does the pixelated initial capture bother you?
Reports of it not working well with Sky/BT routers too, how's yours been?

Tvm

Been wanting to upgrade my garage/house security for a while..

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:51 pm
by Delphi
Not seeing any pixelated capture at all. Currently on Vodafone router which is absolute dogshit, bit that's getting swapped to Sky tomorrow. I'll let you know if I have any issues but pretty sure the new router is dual band anyway. Have you turned off the 2.4ghz band?

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:08 pm
by Barry
Delphi wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:51 pm Have you turned off the 2.4ghz band?
It came already set to 5Ghz, my camera couldn't see the network any more so I'd assumed the 2.4Ghz was off. No idea if it can do both? It's the SkyQ router.

Re: Home CCTV

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:52 pm
by Delphi
Barry wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:08 pm
Delphi wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:51 pm Have you turned off the 2.4ghz band?
It came already set to 5Ghz, my camera couldn't see the network any more so I'd assumed the 2.4Ghz was off. No idea if it can do both? It's the SkyQ router.
What camera have you got, Baz? I've got a pair of EufyCam 2Cs. These (and the doorbell) connect wirelessly to the Eufy Homebase. The Homebase can connect directly to your router via ethernet and I believe they use their own wireless protocol between the Homebase and the camera (although each camera reports a WiFi signal strength so I could be wrong).

The Sky Q router is dual-band and should have both enabled by default. It could be it's turned off, but you should be able to log in to the admin control panel and check. Alternatively, you could setup a cheap AP/PowerLan solution to get around the issue and give you 2.4Ghz WiFi --> Your LAN/Internet.