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Just had to

Not at home to vote, did you?

Yes.

Jimmy Choo wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 3:55 pmYes.

#brexitparty ?

Organising a postal vote in time for my holiday was a bit touch and go but I’m one of the lucky ones.

When the Brexit party win with ~35% of the vote, will that be seen as a vindication of the 2016 referendum result? Because it blatantly won’t be

Yes, and went full Lib Dem. The only non-Brexit Party party with a simple remain policy.

Yes.

yup.

At least we’ll get to see the Tories collapse.

Simon wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 5:15 pm Yes, and went full Lib Dem. The only non-Brexit Party party with a simple remain policy.

Yep, only sane option.

Simon wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 5:15 pm Yes, and went full Lib Dem. The only non-Brexit Party party with a simple remain policy.

Change UK stood on a pretty straightforward remain ticket.

Shame we can’t extrapolate Lib Dem plus Change UK votes v. Brexit Party as a second referendum.

LD + CHUK even in aggregate aren't polling anywhere near >35% are they? Or did you just mean so we don't have to go through a second ref?

No, they’re nowhere near - the point is that you can’t extrapolate from the results that there’s still going to be a 50%+ mandate for Brexit. Plenty of people will stay loyal to their party notwithstanding their preference. Unfortunately that gimp Farage is going to have a field day because he’s simply better at PR.

Yes, true - added to the low voter turnout at Euro elections which makes them inherently unreliable to extrapolate from.

Jobbo wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:31 pm Farage is going to have a field day because he’s simply better at PR.

I'm on holiday so haven't been studying the news but from what I saw on Andrew Marr the other week the medias bias do him many favours.

He's popular and can fight a corner from no position. May on the flip side gave away a strong hand as is now a laughing stock.

Yup.
I struggled to decide between lib dem and green, but went green in the end.

Yup, both voted as its the least we can do if we're going to try and stop these clowns.

Merely as a non-argumentative point of interest (if there is such a thing on here), I find it very intriguing just thinking about the likely outcome of these Euro elections and for example, the split of posts in this thread.

It looks pretty apparent that the Brexit party will clean up but, however, posts in this thread split seemingly 2 (Brexit) to 6 posts (Green / Lib Dem) the other way to the expected result and with no-one saying they're voting Labour (who look likely to come second). You have to reflect on the fact that either this place is extremely unrepresentative or alternatively there are a lot of people who don't want to stick their neck out and get shot down.

On the basis of the above its pretty obvious why, with the current state of polarised politics and "acceptable views", it is very hard to accurately poll and predict results on a nationwide basis. I would think long and hard about that if I was pro-second ref and saw polls that noted remain were 'a few points ahead'. I personally think it'd have to be a clear 70/30 remain before you could be truly confident that the result wouldn't be simply in the balance.

Lib Dem - They had a remain policy and stronger manifesto for NHS development.

scotta wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:48 am stronger manifesto for NHS development.

Relevant for the Euros how?

GG. wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:51 am

scotta wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 9:48 am stronger manifesto for NHS development.

Relevant for the Euros how?

Ask them ...


Liberal Democrats

The party's central aim is presented on the first page of its manifesto, with a banner proclaiming: "Stop Brexit." It wants to do so by holding a second referendum and campaigning for a majority remain vote to overturn the 2016 majority.

Its "Liberal Democrat Vision for Britain in Europe" focuses on tackling climate change (for Britain to be zero-carbon by 2045) and inequalities and developing the "best health and education systems in the world".
Sir Vince Cable during the launch of the Liberal Democrat campaign for European elections at the Dock Gallery in London.
Sir Vince Cable during the launch of the Liberal Democrat campaign for European elections at the Dock Gallery in London. Credit: PA
The party are committed to freedom of movement within the EU, fighting discrimination and promoting equality and gender rights.

The Lib Dems also plan to work to make EU institutions more democratic and efficient, with greater transparency on negotiations and voting. The party vows to reform the Common Agricultural Policy and defend Britain's fishing industry.

The party also pledges to create an "emergency Brexit Support Fund" of more than £7.5 billion to support businesses affected by Brexit "uncertainty".