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Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:45 am
by IanF
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All the way around Heathrow, no road markings, far smaller than previous versions, fit onto any pole; coming to a road near you soon I imagine. ☹️

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:47 am
by GG.
We should start getting burny like the French.

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:05 pm
by IanF
Yep. This is what they look like, face towards you, so by the time you see it...

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My entire crew went a bit pale yesterday when I showed them the info. 30 on perimeter road, 15 in car parks (yes, they’re in there too), 20 on forecourts.

I’m not sure they’ll be improving safety as every buggers going to be looking at lampposts and not the road! 🤷‍♂️

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:31 pm
by Simon
Where does this info come from Ian? Is it 'official'? I know the cameras around Gatwick are security/monitoring, not speed.

Then again, a lot of people drive like bellends around the Heathrow perimeter roads, so it's not surprising.

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:34 pm
by IanF
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Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:54 pm
by DaveE
IanF wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 12:05 pm Yep. This is what they look like, face towards you, so by the time you see it...

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My entire crew went a bit pale yesterday when I showed them the info. 30 on perimeter road, 15 in car parks (yes, they’re in there too), 20 on forecourts.

I’m not sure they’ll be improving safety as every buggers going to be looking at lampposts and not the road! 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:59 pm
by nuttinnew
Lamppost - E?

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:03 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
So what's the likely outcome if you're only speeding a bit, given it's a S.59 offence, possibly?

A telling off?

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:03 pm
by Mito Man
Whoops, looks like my front number plate wasn’t secured very well and just fell off. Again.

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:05 pm
by dinny_g
Can you really be "done" - as in NIPS, 3 Points, £60 fine - for speeding in a car park ??

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:12 pm
by Mito Man
At least they’re still more far more visible than the grey cameras they hide behind motorway gantries - I’m always looking through the gap between the sign and the chassis of the gantry for those.

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 1:35 pm
by scotta
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 1:03 pm So what's the likely outcome if you're only speeding a bit, given it's a S.59 offence, possibly?

A telling off?
Wondered this myself. Says they have powers to seize your car. Surely unless your flying in hot they cant do that?

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:05 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
dinny_g wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 1:05 pm Can you really be "done" - as in NIPS, 3 Points, £60 fine - for speeding in a car park ??
Depends on the status of the road. However, the fact that the letter specifically references S59 would suggest not. I think you have to be a repeat offender to have the vehicle seized, or do something monumentally cvnty.

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:07 pm
by DaveE
dinny_g wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 1:05 pm Can you really be "done" - as in NIPS, 3 Points, £60 fine - for speeding in a car park ??
Oh, these are in a car park - I hadn't twigged.

If that's private property then I wouldn't think a standard speeding fine etc would apply?

Maybe it's a civil thing and you'd be sued for speeding, rather than prosecuted (as per trespass I believe? in the sense it's a civil crime, and so you'd actually be sued for trespass, not prosecuted, as the signs always say?)

Re: Speed Matrix and ANPR average speed cameras

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:18 pm
by mik
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