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Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm**

Given the near zero BIK charge and 100% writing down allowance for Ltd companies they are really attractive financially.

The performance of the Performance

model looks incredible

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 pm**

Carlos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm Given the near zero BIK charge and 100% writing down allowance for Ltd companies they are really attractive financially.

The performance of the Performance model looks incredible

So it's a car for the accountants then? Urgh.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:47 pm**

ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 pm
Carlos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm Given the near zero BIK charge and 100% writing down allowance for Ltd companies they are really attractive financially.

The performance of the Performance model looks incredible
So it's a car for the accountants then? Urgh.

it’s a car for the self employed.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:50 pm**

Rich B wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:47 pm
ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 pm
Carlos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm Given the near zero BIK charge and 100% writing down allowance for Ltd companies they are really attractive financially.

The performance of the Performance model looks incredible
So it's a car for the accountants then? Urgh.
it’s a car for the self employed.

Window cleaners? Brick layers? Gardeners? Delivery drivers? Tutors? Dog walkers? Taxi drivers?

Or just the chap who owns a multi-city version of one of those companies?

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:54 pm**

ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:50 pm
Rich B wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:47 pm
ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 pm

So it's a car for the accountants then? Urgh.
it’s a car for the self employed.
Window cleaners? Brick layers? Gardeners? Delivery drivers? Tutors? Dog walkers? Taxi drivers?

Or just the chap who owns a multi-city version of one of those companies?

or maybe somewhere in the middle. I have a mate who has a small mortgage advising company, he has a XC90 T8 and a Leaf covered by this.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:19 pm**

465hp, 0-60 in 3.3s and 0-100 in 8.2s with laptimes similar to an M3.

Other than the blancmange mould styling what's not to like Mark ?

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:26 pm**

Carlos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:19 pm 465hp, 0-60 in 3.3s and 0-100 in 8.2s with laptimes similar to an M3.

Other than the blancmange mould styling what's not to like Mark ?

The interiors are appalling. Far too austere, minimalist and not welcoming on a cold morning. And 'thin'. And for some reason, whenever I have luggage in the front of a Tesla taxi in the US it's always frozen when I get to my hotel. And they rattle something chronic inside as they age. And the space is evidently all in the wrong place - they seem quite narrow but there's loads of legroom. To me, it's a device, not a car, which I know sounds weird. I could never 'love' a Tesla.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:04 pm**

ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 pm
Carlos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm Given the near zero BIK charge and 100% writing down allowance for Ltd companies they are really attractive financially.

The performance of the Performance model looks incredible
So it's a car for the accountants then? Urgh.

Not quite a car for accountants - we're too tight to buy one

But I have just run the numbers for a client who is a dentist and I believe he's just put in an order for the new Long-range one.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:26 pm**

mikeyb wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:04 pm
ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:46 pm
Carlos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:42 pm Given the near zero BIK charge and 100% writing down allowance for Ltd companies they are really attractive financially.

The performance of the Performance model looks incredible
So it's a car for the accountants then? Urgh.
Not quite a car for accountants - we're too tight to buy one

But I have just run the numbers for a client who is a dentist and I believe he's just put in an order for the new Long-range one.

I thought the BiK rates had been completely FUBAR'd for EVs for a few years now. They went from 0% to 15% just as the deals on Tesla S' were starting to look enticing. However I've read that the'll be back down to 2% as of April next year?

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:36 pm**

RobYob wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:26 pm

I thought the BiK rates had been completely FUBAR'd for EVs for a few years now. They went from 0% to 15% just as the deals on Tesla S' were starting to look enticing. However I've read that the'll be back down to 2% as of April next year?

Then 0% the year after.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:42 pm**

ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:26 pm
Carlos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:19 pm 465hp, 0-60 in 3.3s and 0-100 in 8.2s with laptimes similar to an M3.

Other than the blancmange mould styling what's not to like Mark ?
The interiors are appalling. Far too austere, minimalist and not welcoming on a cold morning. And 'thin'. And for some reason, whenever I have luggage in the front of a Tesla taxi in the US it's always frozen when I get to my hotel. And they rattle something chronic inside as they age. And the space is evidently all in the wrong place - they seem quite narrow but there's loads of legroom. To me, it's a device, not a car, which I know sounds weird. I could never 'love' a Tesla.

But no issues with performance or dynamics ?

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:25 pm**

Carlos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:42 pm
ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:26 pm
Carlos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:19 pm 465hp, 0-60 in 3.3s and 0-100 in 8.2s with laptimes similar to an M3.

Other than the blancmange mould styling what's not to like Mark ?
The interiors are appalling. Far too austere, minimalist and not welcoming on a cold morning. And 'thin'. And for some reason, whenever I have luggage in the front of a Tesla taxi in the US it's always frozen when I get to my hotel. And they rattle something chronic inside as they age. And the space is evidently all in the wrong place - they seem quite narrow but there's loads of legroom. To me, it's a device, not a car, which I know sounds weird. I could never 'love' a Tesla.
But no issues with performance or dynamics ?

Roadholding, no. But performance for me is more than only acceleration. It’s blipping at the lights. It’s a spike of revs on a downshift, pops and crackles on the overrun. It’s just not my thing. Maybe one day it will have to be, but until then...

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:27 pm**

I don’t think a 520d does any of those things either. Ok you can rev it but it won’t sound nice

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:32 pm**

Mito Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:27 pm I don’t think a 520d does any of those things either. Ok you can rev it but it won’t sound nice

That was two years ago dickhead. I’ve done 30k in a Porsche since then whilst you’ve been shagging your dog. Even a hybrid Porsche sounds better than a 520d.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:37 pm**

The Porsche and Tesla are cheaper than the 520d too!

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:41 pm**

Rich B wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:37 pm The Porsche and Tesla are cheaper than the 520d too!

Not once you factor in the aggro of running a Porsche they’re not.

Does anybody here actually own a Tesla? Curious.

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:49 pm**

Thought you had a hybrid; didn’t realise you could rev one of them?

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:52 pm**

IanF wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:49 pm Thought you had a hybrid; didn’t realise you could rev one of them?

Sports Plus will allow it. But not all the time, which has always annoyed. Sometimes it leaves the engine running in order to burn off the fuel, also apparently to avoid dumping it into the sump!

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm**

ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:32 pm
Mito Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:27 pm I don’t think a 520d does any of those things either. Ok you can rev it but it won’t sound nice
That was two years ago dickhead. I’ve done 30k in a Porsche since then whilst you’ve been shagging your dog. Even a hybrid Porsche sounds better than a 520d.

Paying £9k to get out of it still stings then??

Is it 30k in your Porsche or spread across yours and a series of loaners??

Posted: **Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:19 pm**

McSwede wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:04 pm
ShockDiamonds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:32 pm
Mito Man wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:27 pm I don’t think a 520d does any of those things either. Ok you can rev it but it won’t sound nice
That was two years ago dickhead. I’ve done 30k in a Porsche since then whilst you’ve been shagging your dog. Even a hybrid Porsche sounds better than a 520d.
Paying £9k to get out of it still stings then??

Is it 30k in your Porsche or spread across yours and a series of loaners??

Oh probably 40k including loaners. Been at OPCs for around five months in total. Pretty poor really.

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