Gavster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:19 am
I find the carnivore diet fascinating. A lot of people believe it's a panacea for many illnesses and malaise, and I believe them. If someone says they feel amazing after a few months on it, then that's real as far as I can see.
When it comes to nutrition, there is a lot of misinformation out there. And it might not be suitable for some people's lifestyles, for example certain sports might not fit nicely with it. Also, saturated fat. High levels of saturated fat are linked to negative health outcomes over the long term. People in the carnivore community argue about this, but the science is pretty clear on the matter. Howeer, it's not something that'll hit you now, it's something that could be an issue in 20 years time if you continue on the diet. And people who say "I'm carnivore and I'm fine" are basically the equivalent of saying "my grandparents smoked into their 80s" as if that proves smoking is good for you.
Also, due to the nature of the diet, there is very little rigorous science about long term health impacts, e.g. we've not been able to study the long term health outcomes of a large group of the population who follow the diet. My view however, is that if your life feels like crap and changing your diet genuinely makes you feel great, then who cares if you die a few years earlier. It's better to enjoy the life we have, rather than spend a couple more years in a nursing home.
There are a few things which made me get rid of nearly all my veg.
When I eat a mixed diet, I get a lot of joint pain, which is likely caused by auto-immune issues so could be just one veg or most veg, I’ve never tried to find out.
I have absolutely no ups and downs, sugar levels are rock solid and I don’t feel tired till bedtime. I have never used tea or coffee etc. it also completely removed my sugar cravings.
I was never hungry, I ate till I was full and waited till I wanted to eat again, it was 36 hour breaks a few times.
Dry skin between my toes cleared up, I’m in heavy work boots for 13 hours a day and always had it to some degree before this.
Virtually zero farts, very small stools, so what went in the body used. I lost 2 stone and at no point did it feel like I was on a calorie deficit.
It’s certainly not for everyone but to say it’s unhealthy I think is wrong, I have regular bloods done and despite 8 eggs a day cooked in butter with streaky bacon, my cholesterol has gone from 5 to 4.
I had 40 years on a good mixed diet, no processed crap but a big appetite, at least 10 years with just butcher meats and local veg. It was a struggle when travelling but food quality was never a problem. I’ve got a buggered shoulder but all my other pain has gone after abusing my body for so long physically. Certainly worth trying and keep a note of your levels if you are worried.
What we learnt in school about diet is utter balls.
I’m more than happy to share blood test results and any other testing I do in the future.
Dave!