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Oof - I could be tempted. 991 GTS mit manuel und carbon backed bucket seats.



https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-detai ... -911-U1085

Only downside would be the electrickery steering, but to be honest versus 2019 hybridised and turbo'd cars, this seems to be less of a big issue than it once was! The alcantara on the seats would wear terribly too but to be honest I'd probably have the inserts of the buckets re-covered and find some standard 991 rears to swap in.

Thing is... £40k (or 100% again) to change

Alcantara seats are horrible on a road car.

I remember a time when speccing the most skinflint version of a Boxster got you alcantara inserts on the seats. Think they called it something else though.

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 pm Alcantara seats are horrible on a road car.

Incorrect. Alcantara is great.

ETA: and to GG, it doesn't wear badly at all - if you ever see a Lancia Thema or Integrale now have a look at how well it stands up long term.

Phew, ok. So I can keep the Alcantara inserts. That should save me £500 recovering them. Just need to find the remaining 40k now...

Being serious for a minute, I'm sure this is going to end up being quite annoying as I'm confident that by the time I am ready to upgrade to one of these in a couple of years (I keep daydreaming about alternatives but realistically I love 911s too much) they'll then be 100k as Gen 1 991s with manual boxes are hen's teeth.

The centrelocks on the 997 GTS were ok but the ones on that car have me biting the back of my hand - those and the version on the Gen 2 cars are modern day BBS LMs for me.

Jobbo wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:10 pmETA: and to GG, it doesn't wear badly at all - if you ever see a Lancia Thema or Integrale now have a look at how well it stands up long term.

What about cars that have withstood continuous usage?

I'm not exactly a waif like Italian either. Are there any comparable German examples

Jobbo wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:10 pm

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 pm Alcantara seats are horrible on a road car.

Incorrect. Alcantara is great.

ETA: and to GG, it doesn't wear badly at all - if you ever see a Lancia Thema or Integrale now have a look at how well it stands up long term.

yeah that, our ML has alcantara centres and I wouldn't choose leather again!

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:31 pm Only downside would be the electrickery steering, but to be honest versus 2019 hybridised and turbo'd cars, this seems to be less of a big issue than it once was!

Isn’t the 7-speed gearbox...... not great?

991s are very pretty though.

Haven't ever tried one so I'd have to reserve judgment. TBH the box in the '7 can be recalcitrant from time to time so the steering is probably likely to be a bigger step backwards.

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 pmJust need to find the remaining 40k now...

It's easy though, isn't it. If you can afford it and want it enough, have it. If you can't afford it, it's all irrelevant anyway.

JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:37 pm

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 pmJust need to find the remaining 40k now...

It's easy though, isn't it. If you can afford it and want it enough, have it. If you can't afford it, it's all irrelevant anyway.

I think you can put me in the second category for the time being

JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:37 pm

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 pmJust need to find the remaining 40k now...

It's easy though, isn't it. If you can afford it and want it enough, have it. If you can't afford it, it's all irrelevant anyway.

IHRWOHAHO

Jobbo wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:10 pm

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 pm Alcantara seats are horrible on a road car.

Incorrect. Alcantara is great.

ETA: and to GG, it doesn't wear badly at all - if you ever see a Lancia Thema or Integrale now have a look at how well it stands up long term.

Agreed. Alcantara is great, and my Cayman GTS is now 4 and a bit years / 32000 miles old and the interior is in almost as new condition.

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:39 pm

JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:37 pm

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:12 pmJust need to find the remaining 40k now...

It's easy though, isn't it. If you can afford it and want it enough, have it. If you can't afford it, it's all irrelevant anyway.

I think you can put me in the second category for the time being

Then this thread is a waste of your time, and infinitely more importantly, mine

PaulJ wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:45 pm

Jobbo wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:10 pm

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 pm Alcantara seats are horrible on a road car.

Incorrect. Alcantara is great.

ETA: and to GG, it doesn't wear badly at all - if you ever see a Lancia Thema or Integrale now have a look at how well it stands up long term.

Agreed. Alcantara is great, and my Cayman GTS is now 4 and a bit years / 32000 miles old and the interior is in almost as new condition.

So I guess it is really the oils from your hands that wreck the wheel/gear lever or is that fine on your car too, Paul?

JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:46 pm

GG. wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:39 pm

JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:37 pm

It's easy though, isn't it. If you can afford it and want it enough, have it. If you can't afford it, it's all irrelevant anyway.

I think you can put me in the second category for the time being

Then this thread is a waste of your time, and infinitely more importantly, mine

I'm sure knowing that will serve to encourage you to post in it all the more

I've got fuck all to do right now mate, so yeah - that

Jobbo wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:10 pm

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 pm Alcantara seats are horrible on a road car.

Incorrect. Alcantara is great.

ETA: and to GG, it doesn't wear badly at all - if you ever see a Lancia Thema or Integrale now have a look at how well it stands up long term.

Very much this!

I had a Mondeo ST with Leather/Alcantara Recaro's and did 90,000 miles in 2 years and they were fine. I'd also done similar mileage in a Mondeo Ghia with leather/alcantara seats with no issues. It's awesome stuff!

Alcantara retrim on the loltus. Still looks like new after 8000 miles of my fat arse on it.

Mito is a cvnty wrongun.