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Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:14 pm
by scotta
Scenario -
You are travelling on the motorway. You have cruise control set to 70. You are in lane A and have been for miles. You are approaching some imbecile in lane B or C travelling at less than 70. Whats the correct legal procedure?
Obviously if lane C is free you can go around them that way!
Highwaycode says if you're following the flow of the traffic you can undertake but not sure about how that is perceived.

Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:18 pm
by dinny_g
If they're doing less than the speed limit in Lane B, I will move over to C and then back to A
If they're doing less than the speed limit in C, I will just keep in Lane A.
(that's just what I'd do - I'm not saying it's correct)
It's rarely that cut and dried though as they're always other road user to consider and factor in.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:22 pm
by ste
I will pretty much always undertake in lane 1 if i can see the hardshoulder is free.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:22 pm
by Mito Man
I think it’s only frowned upon if you’re already say in lane 3 then go to lane 2 to undertake and return to lane 3.
If you’re not speeding just carry on in whatever lane.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:27 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
ste wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:22 pm
I will pretty much always undertake in lane 1 if i can see the hardshoulder is free.
This.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:38 pm
by NotoriousREV
Depends on how much I trust that vehicle to not move across on me. If I’m on the bike, I’ll nearly always go to lane 3 and then move back over. I’m more likely to stick in lane 1 in the car.
If you do stick in lane 1, be aware that legally the onus is on you to complete the manoeuvre safely. There hasn’t been a specific offence of undertaking since the 70s but you could face a due care and attention charge.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:40 pm
by dinny_g
I presume if you're in lane 1 on your bike and the slow mover is in lane 3, you'll just blast pass, assuming lane 2 is clear ?
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:51 pm
by ste
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:38 pm
There hasn’t been a specific offence of undertaking since the 70s but you could face a due care and attention charge.
O'Rly? I always assumed undertaking was illegal.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:55 pm
by NotoriousREV
dinny_g wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:40 pm
I presume if you're in lane 1 on your bike and the slow mover is in lane 3, you'll just blast pass, assuming lane 2 is clear ?
Yeah, probably.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:59 pm
by IanF
ste wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:51 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:38 pm
There hasn’t been a specific offence of undertaking since the 70s but you could face a due care and attention charge.
O'Rly? I always assumed undertaking was illegal.
Nope. And the police seem to be more interested in punishing the middle lane hogger using the due care charge.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:03 pm
by NotoriousREV
IanF wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:59 pm
ste wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:51 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:38 pm
There hasn’t been a specific offence of undertaking since the 70s but you could face a due care and attention charge.
O'Rly? I always assumed undertaking was illegal.
Nope. And the police seem to be more interested in punishing the middle lane hogger using the due care charge.
Lane hogging and tailgating are specific offences under Careless Driving.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:14 pm
by Coaster1
I used to pull out to the fast lane

to overtake, flash them if at night. Nowadays I just cruise past them on lane 1.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:27 pm
by DeskJockey
There are so many of the blithering muppets. Instant ban! Would also solve the congestion issue.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:28 pm
by NotoriousREV
I’d like car mounted missiles
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:01 pm
by Gavin
Highway Code says as long as your speed is constant passing on the inside is fine. Why is there not an option to throw a banana skin at them so they spin off and explode (in a small contained fireball so as not to cause collateral damage)
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:16 pm
by Jimmy Choo
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:28 pm
I’d like car mounted missiles
Look, we've been through this. Mik is not letting you use his "special garage service" again. Especially as last time you did you managed to vapourise "project Stoopid".
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:25 pm
by Gavin
Jimmy Choo wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:16 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:28 pm
I’d like car mounted missiles
Look, we've been through this. Mik is not letting you use his "special garage service" again. Especially as last time you did you managed to vapourise "project Stoopid".
FFS, Mik is a legitimate business man.

Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:33 pm
by scotta
Gavin wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:25 pm
Jimmy Choo wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:16 pm
NotoriousREV wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:28 pm
I’d like car mounted missiles
Look, we've been through this. Mik is not letting you use his "special garage service" again. Especially as last time you did you managed to vapourise "project Stoopid".
FFS, Mik is a legitimate business man.

Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:07 pm
by duncs500
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:27 pm
ste wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:22 pm
I will pretty much always undertake in lane 1 if i can see the hardshoulder is free.
This.
That.
Re: Discussion point - Middle/Outside lane hoggers.
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:22 pm
by Barry
I concur with most of you, if they're lost in the outside lane and there's room to safely waft past I will. I used to rage out to the outside lane and try and shame them but that's a mugs game, these idiots have no clue and get angry when you wake them up.
I just continue on my way and give them no more thought once passed.