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Been looking along with a n other forum member recently at late l322s and I can't help but think they are going to be an absolute financial disaster.

The early ones on the facebook group seem to fall apart or break every day so will the same happen with later ones as they too rust away and fail?

Anyway they look nice for the money

Been looking into L405's for the past week or, I don't think i have ever seen a car with with variances in pricing over comparable cars!

If you are considering them, don't drive one..

Funny you should mention this, just yesterday I looked at the Discovery forum to see what s/h prices are for an - I assume - enthusiast owned / well maintained D3 / D4.

No surprises on the prices but almost every advert had a looong list of recent (expensive) work carried out, and a list of jobs still needing to be done. That's rather off-putting.

The L405 is huge, you just can’t comfortably park in my town. Which is a shame as they are utterly gorgeous to be in and drive.

The L322 is also great, imo better looking but still has issues. I test drove 2 and both broke down on the test drive. I decided the running costs would be too great if all jobs had to go to a mechanic.

The D3 seems to throw £1000 bills at you on a quarterly basis.

The D4 is lovely, a decent step up from the D3 but the 2 owned by friends of mine do worse mileage than my 5.0V8 so the appeal has waned. They are fantastic family vehicles though for people who do more than just use it for the shops.

Dave!

Love the new ones but again read horror stories on those too. Theres a thread on PH in the Land Rover forum by a guy who had 2 newer ones and both were awful so he sold up. If they aren't right for that sort of money these days then it doesn't bode well for the older 90k plus uns.

I'd be happy with bills paid like leaky oil coolers, egr, new turbos, air bags..... rust ..... they do look nice tho

If a Land Cruiser is the paragon of reliability that its Toyota badge suggests it should be, is it anywhere near the 'nice place to be' that the larger LR/RRs are?

We must have been very lucky with our D3 and D4. One bill in the £1k range for each. D3 was great. D4 was greater.

JonMad wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:51 pm If a Land Cruiser is the paragon of reliability that its Toyota badge suggests it should be, is it anywhere near the 'nice place to be' that the larger LR/RRs are?

An actual Land Cruiser isn’t shabby but the EU spec Prado ‘Land Cruiser’ is shit.

Really love the look of the L322 - but as you say some seem to be a money pit.

I've been offered a 3.6 in an almost prefect spec for what seems like 'too good to be true' money but am holding off for now.

2017 Cars (the last ones before the face-lift- the velar style 2 screens) seem to offer the best "value" as they are significantly cheaper than new cars and make the older stuff seem expensive.

JonMad wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:51 pm If a Land Cruiser is the paragon of reliability that its Toyota badge suggests it should be, is it anywhere near the 'nice place to be' that the larger LR/RRs are?

Nope. And that's me saying that, and you all know I'm an LC fanboy.

Nowhere is as nice to be as a Range Rover.

JLv3.0 wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:34 am

JonMad wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:51 pm If a Land Cruiser is the paragon of reliability that its Toyota badge suggests it should be, is it anywhere near the 'nice place to be' that the larger LR/RRs are?

Nope. And that's me saying that, and you all know I'm an LC fanboy.

Nowhere is as nice to be as a Range Rover.

Just means with the RR you are comfortable while waiting to be recovered or recovering from open wallet surgery.

Sounds like my Navara although troublesome for a Jap car is nowhere near as bad as an RR for reliability, it's OK to be in (heated electric leather, etc) but also no RR, it's had it's issues but never left us stranded.

Carl.

Foz wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:30 am 2017 Cars (the last ones before the face-lift- the velar style 2 screens) seem to offer the best "value" as they are significantly cheaper than new cars and make the older stuff seem expensive.

And they don’t have the hideous facelift rear lights which look like they’ve come from a kids cartoon.

JLv3.0 wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:34 am

JonMad wrote: Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:51 pm If a Land Cruiser is the paragon of reliability that its Toyota badge suggests it should be, is it anywhere near the 'nice place to be' that the larger LR/RRs are?

Nope. And that's me saying that, and you all know I'm an LC fanboy.

Nowhere is as nice to be as a Range Rover.

Fair enough. I’ve never even sat in a RR of any model to experience this comfort level. A test drive of a Freelander and a few hours in a tatty Disco V8 on an off road course probably don’t qualify.

It's not just the luxury of an RR - it's the way you sit in the captain's chair, looking out over the castellated bonnet. Very hard to explain but there's just no other car like them.

JonMad wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:06 pmI’ve never even sat in a RR of any model to experience this comfort level.

Same

I’ve driven a few L322s around town when they were new - they are a lovely place to be. The dash design is spot on with the vertical trunk of wood slicing through it behind the vents (and BMW style dial layout!) and as JL said, the view over the bonnet corners is just right.

Lovely cars to drive and be in, but having been around them for the last 15 years, would I buy one? Absolutely, if it was a 3rd car and I had 2 reliable cars to fall back on .

JLv3.0 wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:11 pm It's not just the luxury of an RR - it's the way you sit in the captain's chair, looking out over the castellated bonnet. Very hard to explain but there's just no other car like them.

that, drive one and you get it, my wife thinks the Ml has been unreliable mind, - its never let us down, a few ABS faults and a dead battery aside from routine maintenance, she would be in for a shock

Now this might be worthy of a new thread - but women simply don't expect cars to ever go wrong and only just about seem to have made their peace with them requiring servicing. Is it because their shoes and handbags don't need running repairs?