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Bugger.

Camera van on a bridge above the M40. I was merging and moving into the outside lane and put my foot down to match speed and then move through a gap in the traffic - which is exactly why the cynical so and so was sat one bridge after the A34 / M40 interchange as obviously they've worked out that pickings are richer when you factor in people joining the motorway. Naturally as I was doing that I am less sure of exactly what speed I was doing. I'm hoping it is within speed awareness over the limit.

21 years with a clean licence and only one course in that time (around 6 years ago I think). It's been a decent innings

What if a child had been playing in the outside lane of the motorway GG!?

Hope it’s just a SAC

GG. wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:50 pm Bugger.

Camera van on a bridge above the M40. I was merging and moving into the outside lane and put my foot down to match speed and then move through a gap in the traffic - which is exactly why the cynical so and so was sat one bridge after the A34 / M40 interchange as obviously they've worked out that pickings are richer when you factor in people joining the motorway. Naturally as I was doing that I am less sure of exactly what speed I was doing. I'm hoping it is within speed awareness over the limit.

21 years with a clean licence and only one course in that time (around 6 years ago I think). It's been a decent innings

i did years of lucky clean licence (and a few courses) then it’s all gone wrong and i’m currently on 6 points… boo!

Racist

The way many mince on the motorway I'd think you could get to the outside passing people cleanly and barely be doing 70 - you may be lucky yet

At least it wasn't on the 50mph shite fest that is the speed-limit-for-system-testing-despite-all-lanes-now-open-after-the-last-round-of-smart-motorway-roadworks M25. Four go under the gantry at the same time alongside each other, the camera flashes...

nuttinnew wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 5:54 pm Racist

The way many mince on the motorway I'd think you could get to the outside passing people cleanly and barely be doing 70 - you may be lucky yet

At least it wasn't on the 50mph shite fest that is the speed-limit-for-system-testing-despite-all-lanes-now-open-after-the-last-round-of-smart-motorway-roadworks M25. Four go under the gantry at the same time alongside each other, the camera flashes...

It was stuck on a fog warning too last week for a few days when it was glorious sunshine

The M40 has speed limits?

The M40 I have always found a pain in this regard - monotonous enough that you aren't necessarily on your A-game looking out for cams - but with frequent enough cams that there is a real risk of being caught.

If it allows you to try and stay positive, I have definitely passed these at higher than the limit and not received anything, so fingers crossed.

Fingers and toes crossed!

Interestingly the last service of the Range Rover update the nav with a speed limit plus actual speed indicator - the actual speed always being a few MPH below so it is possible…

GG. wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:50 pm Bugger.

Camera van on a bridge above the M40. I was merging and moving into the outside lane and put my foot down to match speed and then move through a gap in the traffic - which is exactly why the cynical so and so was sat one bridge after the A34 / M40 interchange as obviously they've worked out that pickings are richer when you factor in people joining the motorway. Naturally as I was doing that I am less sure of exactly what speed I was doing. I'm hoping it is within speed awareness over the limit.

21 years with a clean licence and only one course in that time (around 6 years ago I think). It's been a decent innings

Limit for speed awareness is 10%+9mph, so 86mph for nsl motorway

I was clocked at 82 on the M40 years ago and was offered a a Speed Awareness course. Camera Van on a bridge. I thought I'd be OK as I was in the middle lane and the fast lane traffic was going significantly faster than me. But got the NIP anyway.

The Speed Awareness course was 4 hours long - 3 hours and... probably 58 minutes was about why we shouldn't speed in a 30 zone or around town and about 2 minutes were about speeding on Dual Carriageways and Motorways. Mahooooosive waste of my time but no points

Speed awareness course is the one thing I feel has been improved by transferring to zoom instead of in person

Bonus points for saying just before you sign out of the awareness course "See you all next time!"

It winds them up no end.

What a PITA. I wonder what %age of council income is down to speeding fines?

Its my annual reminder that there's still no speed awareness courses in Scotland for "reasons".

Ascender wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 8:40 am Its my annual reminder that there's still no speed awareness courses in Scotland for "reasons".

Yeah - my eldest got caught (fair cop guvnor) exceeding a 20 limit in a village and didn't get any option for a course. We were out towards Stirling yesterday and it feels like every village has now switched from 30 to 20 limit.

mik wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 8:45 am

Ascender wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 8:40 am Its my annual reminder that there's still no speed awareness courses in Scotland for "reasons".

Yeah - my eldest got caught (fair cop guvnor) exceeding a 20 limit in a village and didn't get any option for a course.

It's one of those things the SNP were going to get put in place years ago but it just didn't happen. I think it was back in 2009/2010 the subject first came up.

20 mph limits will be the reason I get my next points, because the +10% margin in speed is so tiny it's incredibly easy to misjudge. On NSL it's safe to treat 70mph as a soft limit, because there's plenty of headroom before I hit 77mph. The difference between 20 and 22mph is minuscule. I think it's the reason that traffic in my local area generally moves around 15mph, even though that makes me want to cry.

Gavster wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:56 am 20 mph limits will be the reason I get my next points, because the +10% margin in speed is so tiny it's incredibly easy to misjudge. On NSL it's safe to treat 70mph as a soft limit, because there's plenty of headroom before I hit 77mph. The difference between 20 and 22mph is minuscule. I think it's the reason that traffic in my local area generally moves around 15mph, even though that makes me want to cry.

In mrs mik's E-Tron I regularly use the adaptive cruise to help me out now. In 20-limits I set it to 24mph (accepting a slight over-read on the speedo, and also that I am taking a slight risk). I then watch all the traffic start to queue up behind me - probably including many drivers who campaigned for the stoopidly low limit in the first place

If the speed-limit recognition was perfect then this would be an almost flawless solution. Unfortunately it isn't - so at times your attention is focussed on fighting with the cruise and you won't therefore notice little Timmy running into the road with his pet rabbit. It's not regular, but sporadically the car will decide that it is actually a 30 limit (and therefore reset the cruise to 30) before deciding that it is actually a 20 after all (and therefore resetting the cruise to 20) etc etc.

Evora doesn't have adaptive cruise, so its not as practical to use the same tactic in 30/40 limits when other traffic is around, and this feature won't even activate at lower speeds so zero use for 20 limits.

GG spotted joining M40..

Gavster wrote: Tue May 06, 2025 9:56 am 20 mph limits will be the reason I get my next points, because the +10% margin in speed is so tiny it's incredibly easy to misjudge. On NSL it's safe to treat 70mph as a soft limit, because there's plenty of headroom before I hit 77mph. The difference between 20 and 22mph is minuscule. I think it's the reason that traffic in my local area generally moves around 15mph, even though that makes me want to cry.

The 15 mph brigade are all one NIP away from a ban I reckon. Or from outside the city. You get used to London but for people from outside I think they get overwhelmed. They have to learn on the go which roads you can enter, the times, read signs, the bus lanes, driving an inch from the car in front so someone doesn’t cut in as you approach a yellow box and get a fine. Wheel over in the bus lane that can be a fine. The suicide delivery mopeds which aren’t really a thing elsewhere. Lanes which become left/right turn only but you can’t tell until you’re right at the end because it’s only painted on the road which is covered in traffic. And so on.

30kph (18.6mph) limits are becoming increasingly prevalent across mainland Europe now. I guess we're just following suit.

I wonder when 30mph speed limits were introduced widespread across the UK, if alot of people were complaining?

It does make you wonder if in another 20 years, they'll introduce 15mph or 10mph limits