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Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:02 am
by mik
The 2018 Mustang uses Ford's 10-speed auto.

Discuss.

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Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:04 am
by JLv3.0
Seems to me to be the most technologically advanced way of shifting gears for an automobile and therefore the best!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:08 am
by JonMad
Have they just reinvented CVT but with fewer rubber belts?

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:09 am
by scotta
I thought 8 in the M135i ZF was 2 too many.

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:11 am
by Simon
Merc's 9 speed seemed good for me, but obviously Ford's is 1 better.

I think they're also launching a new 8 speed transverse auto to replace the aging 6 speed. It'll be fitted to the Mondeo and new Focus..

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 am
by mik
Seems even Ford think there are too many gears - it is programmed to do bulk upshifts where it deems appropriate.


Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:25 am
by JLv3.0
IT'S SO TECHNOLOGICAL!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:31 am
by Rich B
I like that they’ve added two gear levers too. MORE IS BETTER!

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am
by mik
I'm thinking I could do with a second, or maybe even a third reverse gear too. Hopefully that'll be next.

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am
by Simon
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am I'm thinking I could do with a second, or maybe even a third reverse gear too. Hopefully that'll be next.
A lot of auto boxes have 2 reverse gears (Merc's 7 speed for example)

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:17 am
by mik
Simon wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am I'm thinking I could do with a second, or maybe even a third reverse gear too. Hopefully that'll be next.
A lot of auto boxes have 2 reverse gears (Merc's 7 speed for example)
:oops: i thought i was suggesting stoopidz. What is the second ratio for? Better mpg whilst cruising backwards? :?

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:33 am
by GG.
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:02 am The 2018 Mustang uses Ford's 10-speed auto.

Discuss.

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Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:45 am
by Simon
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:17 am
Simon wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am I'm thinking I could do with a second, or maybe even a third reverse gear too. Hopefully that'll be next.
A lot of auto boxes have 2 reverse gears (Merc's 7 speed for example)
:oops: i thought i was suggesting stoopidz. What is the second ratio for? Better mpg whilst cruising backwards? :?
No idea! But considering 'how' you reverse the gears, I'm surprised it's not 7 speeds in reverse!

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:47 am
by scotta
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:17 am
Simon wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am I'm thinking I could do with a second, or maybe even a third reverse gear too. Hopefully that'll be next.
A lot of auto boxes have 2 reverse gears (Merc's 7 speed for example)
:oops: i thought i was suggesting stoopidz. What is the second ratio for? Better mpg whilst cruising backwards? :?
J-Turns DUH :roll:

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 12:02 pm
by simon_g
Makes sense for pickup trucks that might be towing heavy things. Less so for things like the Mustang but I guess if it can skip ratios then no bother.

At what point though do we just fit CVTs and be done with it?

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 12:16 pm
by Simon
simon_g wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:02 pm Makes sense for pickup trucks that might be towing heavy things. Less so for things like the Mustang but I guess if it can skip ratios then no bother.

At what point though do we just fit CVTs and be done with it?
Other than the one in the Prius, show me a RELIABLE CVT

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 1:03 pm
by ShockDiamonds
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:17 am
Simon wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 10:00 am
mik wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 9:35 am I'm thinking I could do with a second, or maybe even a third reverse gear too. Hopefully that'll be next.
A lot of auto boxes have 2 reverse gears (Merc's 7 speed for example)
:oops: i thought i was suggesting stoopidz. What is the second ratio for? Better mpg whilst cruising backwards? :?
The 140 Series Mercs I drove years ago had a crawler reverse gear IIRC which slowed the rate of movement when going backwards. Not sure whether that necessitated an actual second reverse gear though.

Re: Ford's 10sp auto

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:39 am
by simon_g
Simon wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:16 pm
simon_g wrote: Thu May 31, 2018 12:02 pm Makes sense for pickup trucks that might be towing heavy things. Less so for things like the Mustang but I guess if it can skip ratios then no bother.

At what point though do we just fit CVTs and be done with it?
Other than the one in the Prius, show me a RELIABLE CVT
Prius isn't even a CVT, it just behaves like one so that's what the motoring press refer to it as.

The current Honda system is apparently fine but it's not a high power/torque capable unit.