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They're back! In a pretty blatant exercise in topping their bank accounts back up . For which I see no issue personally.

Furore over ticket availability and moreso the dynamic pricing (that they apparently agreed to) however : I won't repeat examples here as you have all seen them.

Dynamic Pricing is pretty common - there was uproar about it last summer during the Taylor Swift ticket issue. Two people sitting next to each other but one paid 3 or 4 times more etc.

It happens when the artist outsources ticketing to third parties so I guess that’s what happened with Oasis

As for the gigs, watching a pair of 50 something ex crackhead Man City fans sing out of tune for 2 hours for £500 a ticket - nah you’re alright

I saw them over 20 years ago, I wasn't that impressed. Liam is a massive bellend and just shouted at girls to get their tits out, in between singing out of key.

It is not hard to make sure tickets are sold at a reaosnable price and stop people selling them on, but as long as people are willing and able to but tickets for stipid money, there is no onus to stop

They were a bit derivative when they were fresh. Now a Quoasis reunion is going to be a glorified tribute show. I’ll stick with the memories of enjoying Definitely Maybe, What’s The Story, Whatever and Step Out (both left off the album) in the mid—90s.

Noel’s turgid ‘Baby baby baby’ spoken intro on their cover of Cum On Feel The Noize is a perfect metaphor for their post-1995 oeuvre.

Just reminded myself why Step Out and Whatever were omitted - both due to lawsuits since they directly ripped off Stevie Wonder and Neil Innes respectively. Of course.

Not the first time that fair market economics seem to be under threat.

Things are worth what people are prepared to pay for them - if you want to pay £500 for a ticket, you pay £500. If someone else has only paid £100 and you decide that because of that, you don't want to buy the ticket then you're not prepared to buy it so it's not worth £500.

Various agencies and groups seem to be moving into the realm of deciding what profit is deemed fair and appropriate and that's not a millions miles from state sponsored price fixing which is fundamentally at odds with the free market economy

Yeah I'm a bit surprised at the coverage this is getting, although the government seems to be pursuing it to deflect from their own problems.
Just wait till they figure out how auctions work. And real stores. And house prices. And everything online!

If you sell through one agency which artificially restricts the supply in order to bolster demand and prices then I think that’s unfair.

Lots of products are sold in that manner - watches are a good example where the marked isn't flooded day 1 for new releases etc.

dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:05 pm Lots of products are sold in that manner - watches are a good example where the marked isn't flooded day 1 for new releases etc.

Do they sell them at 4x the price on day 2?

Jobbo wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:41 pm If you sell through one agency which artificially restricts the supply in order to bolster demand and prices then I think that’s unfair.

Exactly. Although it's worse than that even. When effectively one body controls the venues, the promoters, the ticket sales and the ticket re-sales, that's treading well into dodgy ground. I'm amazed that this hasn't been picked up years ago by the likes of the CMA over here, or the EU and US equivalents. It's a massive racket.

Surge pricing is barely acceptable but at least understandable on taxis. It’s an incredible piss take on tickets, they know how many tickets there are going to be and what the demand will be, doubling the price just because they can is scummy.

I've changed my mind about this whole thing. I was originally on the "Free market, good luck to them" side of things. But now I feel it's falling more on the side of price gouging, because these tickets were very obviously going to sell out immediately, especially considering how they only announced a small amount of dates.

People spent hours in the queue to buy tickets, and a lot of them joined the queue when the price was at the basic £150. The price then changed while they were in the the queue. I feel it's like going into a busy supermarket for your usual £50 food shop, and then only being told it's actually £100 today when you get checkout because the stock ran low while you were shopping. Part of this is based on viewing the ticketmaster queue as being part of the shopping process, e.g. you're in their domain at that point.

If this was a real-life situation people would be going even more mental. E.g. if 500,000 fans were all queueing at Wembley stadium ticket office, would it still be fair to raise the prices during the sale? And would you feel happy if the first 150,000 people paid £150, then you were at position 150,001 and asked for £300?

Also interesting how they've announced two more dates and are selling the tickets via a ballots system, because of this furore.

Rich B wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:53 pm

dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:05 pm Lots of products are sold in that manner - watches are a good example where the marked isn't flooded day 1 for new releases etc.

Do they sell them at 4x the price on day 2?

No they "artificially restricts the supply in order to bolster demand and prices"

dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:26 pm

Rich B wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:53 pm

dinny_g wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 4:05 pm Lots of products are sold in that manner - watches are a good example where the marked isn't flooded day 1 for new releases etc.

Do they sell them at 4x the price on day 2?

No they "artificially restricts the supply in order to bolster demand and prices"

So that’s totally different. the equivalent would be them not restricting supply, just every now and then hiking up the pricing from what it was when you walked in the shop, so when you get to the till they ask 3 times the price you thought they were.

i presume expensive watches charge the price they are advertised at. i know Rolex dealers aren’t allowed to inflate the costs on new sales - even though they could sell each watch 3 times over for above RPP.

Got two tickets for Wembley in the ballot this morning. Prices were £75-200. There’ll be some pissed off people that paid £350 for standard tickets a few weeks ago. Wonder if they’ll offer partial refunds?

240PP wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:20 am Got two tickets for Wembley in the ballot this morning. Prices were £75-200. There’ll be some pissed off people that paid £350 for standard tickets a few weeks ago. Wonder if they’ll offer partial refunds?

That seems.....unlikely

The other potential response was just repeated laughter but that felt unnecessarily harsh. They'll only offer refunds if the PR is extremely bad, and this is Ticketmaster we're talking about, bad PR for them is water off a ducks back.

Not really expecting them to, just if the PR situation is that bad… but maybe the band don’t give a fuck anymore.

But you’ve got two sets of people that have been charged wildly different prices from the same official outlet for exactly the same thing.

This popped up on my feed. I don’t follow him.