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Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:19 am
by ZedLeg
Boeing have been having a shocker recently so I’m surprised they’re not making a bigger deal of this.
First manned flight to the ISS
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-u ... a-69094213
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:34 am
by jamcg
Hopefully all doors and blanks remain in place
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:07 pm
by Matty
I may be waaay off base in understanding this, but it still surprises me that we landed on the moon in 1969, yet 45 years later despite the insane technological advances we've seen in every area, we're still in a very similar situation with 'space flight' we were back then....that is, slapping massive rockets to the sides of small pods and crossing our fingers it doesn't explode every time.
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:20 pm
by ZedLeg
It takes an enormous amount of energy to get into space and rockets are pretty efficient as far as propulsion methods go. Also, they’re cheap.
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:20 pm
by Mito Man
I’m a bit confused, is NASA just hedging its bets by giving 3 different firms contracts for moon landings? Or are the 3 working together on different aspects? And does NASA not build spacecraft anymore?
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:29 pm
by ZedLeg
afaik
The blue origin and space x landers are for the moon/planetary landings and the starliner is for shuttling between earth and the iss.
That seems more useful than a planetary lander tbh.
Presumably if we have a cheaper, reusable shuttle that can dock with stations we could theoretically start building bigger ships in orbit. Which side steps the whole getting them off the ground issue.
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:33 pm
by dinny_g
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:20 pm
And does NASA not build spacecraft anymore?
They never did
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:01 pm
by Mito Man
ZedLeg wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:29 pm
afaik
The blue origin and space x landers are for the moon/planetary landings and the starliner is for shuttling between earth and the iss.
That seems more useful than a planetary lander tbh.
Presumably if we have a cheaper, reusable shuttle that can dock with stations we could theoretically start building bigger ships in orbit. Which side steps the whole getting them off the ground issue.
Ah makes sense, just reading about Starliner and it seems like it’s 50-60% more expensive per launch than the Space X though.
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:02 pm
by Mito Man
dinny_g wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:33 pm
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:20 pm
And does NASA not build spacecraft anymore?
They never did
You can’t do that to me

Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:01 pm
by dinny_g
They've always been team efforts co-ordinated by NASA
For example, for the Saturn V, Boeing build the first stage, North American Aviation build the Second Stage and Douglas build the 3rd
For the Shuttle, Alliant Techsystems built the Solid Rocket Boosters, Lockheed Martin built the Tanks and Rockwell build the Orbiter itself
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:09 pm
by ZedLeg
It’s why the “a million parts built by the lowest bidder” line works

Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:53 pm
by dinny_g
Any why the Administration in "National Aeronautics and Space Administration" is so apt...
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:20 pm
by IanF
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:17 pm
by jamcg
Astronauts will stay in space for 8 months instead of 8 days, and will be rescued by space x, because Boeing can’t sort their shit out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy47w9yndpo
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:04 pm
by duncs500
Pretty embarrassing. I'm assuming some heads have or will roll.
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:08 pm
by jamcg
duncs500 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:04 pm
Pretty embarrassing. I'm assuming some heads have or will roll.
Just the whistleblowers
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:19 am
by jamcg
Apologies for the tabloid source but got sent this
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:53 am
by IanF
I’ve watched enough space alien movies to know that the first attempt to sort it is always a disaster, therefore I suggest we send Elon Musk up to talk to them!
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:58 am
by Mito Man
There’s a London bus stuck in the Boeing Starliner. They make that noise sometimes as the doors close.
Re: Boeing Starliner
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:12 pm
by jamcg