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Which?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:49 pm
by mik
Choose
Re: Which?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:34 pm
by DeskJockey
I'll take the guaranteed option.
Re: Which?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:35 pm
by Mito Man
Can I have a penny which doubles in value every day for a month?
Re: Which?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:50 pm
by DeskJockey
What's the starting value of your special penny?
Re: Which?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:02 pm
by Beany
RIP
Which? Magazine, which is what I assume you're referring to as you even when to the extent of including the question mark.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Which%3F
Re: Which?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:52 pm
by Mito Man
DeskJockey wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:50 pm
What's the starting value of your special penny?
1 pence.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:03 am
by Jobbo
Mito Man wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:52 pm
DeskJockey wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:50 pm
What's the starting value of your special penny?
1 pence.
So just under £2.7m even in February in a non-leap year. Probably worth getting the full £21.47m by taking it in a 31 day month. Not quite the question mik was asking.
Purely on statistical analysis, there's an obvious reason to go for the second option in mik's poll: the expected winnings are £5m. But the chance of getting nothing means I'd obviously take the £1m guaranteed. It's a nice sum and the considerations in this sort of gamble are different to just maximising the statistical outcome.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:59 am
by duncs500
Jobbo is correct. I like my life, £1m would really enhance it without fundamentally changing it. Assuming you win the £10m, everything changes, and it could go both ways in terms of happiness IMO.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:14 am
by Jobbo
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:59 am
Assuming you win the £10m, everything changes, and it could go both ways in terms of happiness IMO.
Yes, that's why I only do the Euromillions when it's well over £100m. If you're going to change your life, do it big time.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:32 pm
by 240PP
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:59 am
Jobbo is correct. I like my life, £1m would really enhance it without fundamentally changing it.
This.
£100k or a 50/50 on £1m is a more difficult question..
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:20 pm
by duncs500
240PP wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:32 pm
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:59 am
Jobbo is correct. I like my life, £1m would really enhance it without fundamentally changing it.
This.
£100k or a 50/50 on £1m is a more difficult question..
Agreed. I'm not sure what I'd choose! Probably still the £100k, I'm not much of a gambler.

Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:33 pm
by mik
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:20 pm
240PP wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:32 pm
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:59 am
Jobbo is correct. I like my life, £1m would really enhance it without fundamentally changing it.
This.
£100k or a 50/50 on £1m is a more difficult question..
Agreed. I'm not sure what I'd choose! Probably still the £100k, I'm not much of a gambler.
I'll need to start a new thread for you Duncs with options of £100 vs a 50/50 on £1000.

Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:40 pm
by duncs500
mik wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:33 pm
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:20 pm
240PP wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:32 pm
This.
£100k or a 50/50 on £1m is a more difficult question..
Agreed. I'm not sure what I'd choose! Probably still the £100k, I'm not much of a gambler.
I'll need to start a new thread for you Duncs with options of £100 vs a 50/50 on £1000.

No, I'd gamble for £100k vs a guaranteed £10k. But £100k would take a lovely chunk out of the mortgage! I must just not be as rich as you lot.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:33 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
When do I get my £million @mik ?
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:02 pm
by NGRhodes
240PP wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:32 pm
duncs500 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:59 am
Jobbo is correct. I like my life, £1m would really enhance it without fundamentally changing it.
This.
£100k or a 50/50 on £1m is a more difficult question..
£100k would pay my mortgage off and a huge boost to my pension, not worth the gamble for me.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:26 pm
by Simon
Looks like I'm one of two who would take the coin toss. You're looking at the difference between a nice house, vs never working again and your children never having to work either, if invested properly. That's worth a shot for me.
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:30 pm
by mik
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:33 pm
When do I get my £million @mik ?
I have a bottle waiting for you here - just pop over dude.

Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:41 pm
by Nefarious
Wow. The results of the poll fly in the face of the widely accepted theory that people are risk-loving on potential gains, but risk-averse on potential losses. And not just a little bit either!
Personally, I'd go for the coin flip every time. Average expected outcome of £5m vs £1m seems a no-brainer to me
ETA - If anyone's actually interested, here's the famous prospect theory paper from Kahneman (who wrote "Thinking Fast and Slow") and Tversky .
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1914185
Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:05 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Simon wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:26 pm
Looks like I'm one of two who would take the coin toss. You're looking at the difference between a nice house, vs never working again and your children never having to work either, if invested properly. That's worth a shot for me.
Fuck that - my child can work and learn the value of £

Re: Which?
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:06 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
mik wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:30 pm
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:33 pm
When do I get my £million @mik ?
I have a bottle waiting for you here - just pop over dude.
Bloody gipped
