Re: Test drive report
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:32 pm
992 sounds like an interesting buy (although I still wish they were a bit smaller). If you got one would you still want an MX5? Have I misread your post?
It didn't feel big - incredibly easy to place on the road. I wouldn't write off the idea of a 911 because the 992 has got too big. MX5 is the alternative - so much cheaper yet would it actually give me any less pleasure? I wouldn't buy both.
yeah, I do get it.
That's reassuring there's guaranteed final value available on these plans then.Jobbo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:32 pmIt didn't feel big - incredibly easy to place on the road. I wouldn't write off the idea of a 911 because the 992 has got too big. MX5 is the alternative - so much cheaper yet would it actually give me any less pleasure? I wouldn't buy both.
@Ascender Normal 911s don't depreciate *too* badly but the new list prices are a lot higher than they used to be so the absolute figures are still pretty hefty from new. I'd only buy with a guranateed final value on something of this price; I might be willing to stomach £10k per year depreciation but it's very comforting to have that effectively insured.
Rich, I've had a Boxster and no matter how good a GT4 is, it's still not-a-911. Itch that has to be scratched one day.
OK - I did indeed miss your point completely - that makes 100% more sense.
Didn't watch the vid, and I don't dispute the assertion, but I do wonder how much that matters to the majority of buyers? Those who want brand/status will still see the 911 as a higher-in-the-range offering, and those who seek the dynamics of a 911 crave the theoretically flawed weight distribution.
it clearly doesn’t matter much at all. It’s fairly amusing that most will assume the 911 is better built when they are literally be assembled on the same line with most of the same components though!mik wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:29 pmDidn't watch the vid, and I don't dispute the assertion, but I do wonder how much that matters to the majority of buyers? Those who want brand/status will still see the 911 as a higher-in-the-range offering, and those who seek the dynamics of a 911 crave the theoretically flawed weight distribution.
Have you ever looked in any detail at the Boxster/911 relationship from the late-90s onwards? The 986 and 996 were far more the same car than the current Boxster and 992. They shared doors, front end metalwork, front lights, dashboard etc so it was totally visible.Rich B wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:36 pmit clearly doesn’t matter much at all. It’s fairly amusing that most will assume the 911 is better built when they are literally be assembled on the same line with most of the same components though!mik wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:29 pmDidn't watch the vid, and I don't dispute the assertion, but I do wonder how much that matters to the majority of buyers? Those who want brand/status will still see the 911 as a higher-in-the-range offering, and those who seek the dynamics of a 911 crave the theoretically flawed weight distribution.
Nice I drove the 991 GTS at the Porsche experience centre in 2019 and I get what you are saying about how wonderfully pointy it felt. It genuinely shrinks around you and pivots as your please. There's shared DNA with the Boxster for sure, I'd say the Boxster feels lighter on its feet but my experience is a bit limited.Jobbo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:49 am Test driving the demo GTS was great. It's not an intimidating thing; main take-aways were that I prefer a leather not alcantara steering wheel (at first I really disliked the alcantara wheel, partly because he'd turned the wheel heating on); that it feels incredibly rigid and while the suspension is pretty firm it doesn't crash (in normal mode at least) and flows with the road. The performance of the 480bhp GTS is plenty. 4wd is not something I am fussed about; it feels so planted in 2wd form I can't see the point in paying extra for it, but I'd choose a C4 GTS if speccing one new myself. It took me probably 15-20 mins of the test drive to work out what it reminded me of; the similarity in some ways to my 986 Boxster (very Porsche in a straight line) is mixed with a feeling of being keyed to the road and being darty quite like a spicy Impreza from the hawkeye era - most unexpected. A passenger ride in Mark_BT52's Toshi Arai edition is the closest thing I can think of to that part of the overall feel. Anyway, I very much liked it. ETA: just found the demo car as an approved used car: https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/det ... ned-3OEDWV - it has more miles on it than the one I wanted to buy
as I said, the point is that it's an interesting video - especially (to me) the perceived jump in build quality of the 911 being entirely placebo. Interesting too, that from a purely engineering PoV, he reckoned that the 911 was likely cheaper to build than the boxster.
This.Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:29 am I got bored after the second photo. Just buy the 911, it’s obviously what you want.