Daan Saaf OV9 Meet

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OK - so we're a couple of days away now.

If anyone else is interested in coming and isn't already on the whatsapp group, send me a PM with your number and I'll add you. We're meeting at 10:30am at the Ridgeway Car Park https://goo.gl/maps/68gZTgqCS1PTJ3gF8

@Sundayjumper is the Fezza fixed now or are you going to come along in the Galaxie :D
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So unfortunately I am off to Tel Aviv for the weekend and will be back Sunday. Also have no car, so.. 🤷‍♂️

Have a great time gents 🏎️🏆🥇🥈🥉

Also, I have two Salon Privé Blenheim tickets available if anyone wishes to go as my guest.. dress code is formal but should be fun. PM me if interested
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IanF wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:26 pm So unfortunately I am off to Tel Aviv for the weekend and will be back Sunday. Also have no car, so.. 🤷‍♂️

Have a great time gents 🏎️🏆🥇🥈🥉

Also, I have two Salon Privé Blenheim tickets available if anyone wishes to go as my guest.. dress code is formal but should be fun. PM me if interested
Oy vey!!

Anyway - have fun at SP - I have no tie or jacket with me otherwise I'd have popped along afterwards...
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Few pics from today:

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I’m sorry not to have witnessed the flames popping out the back of the Elise, but I could definitely hear it even at the back of the convoy!
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It should be made clear that the engine cover was open on the Elise to show off the magnificence inside, not because Duncan had broken down!
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Sorry we didn’t get time for any passenger rides, Will.

I’m up in Oxford semi regularly so will drop you a line when I’m next up.
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@dan ,your work was greatly appreciated today. 😎
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Some of the post Salon Prive traffic back to London was on point as well. I was in a 458 Italia, V8 vantage, G body 911 cab, Aston Vanquish convoy at one point!

Plus a gen 2 Renaultsport Clio with a bunch of scaffolding in the back :lol:
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Jimmy Choo wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:06 pm @dan ,your work was greatly appreciated today. 😎
I didn’t realise there were flames. Being at the front I saw/heard nuttin :cry:
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GG. wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:11 pm Some of the post Salon Prive traffic back to London was on point as well. I was in a 458 Italia, V8 vantage, G body 911 cab, Aston Vanquish convoy at one point!

Plus a gen 2 Renaultsport Clio with a bunch of scaffolding in the back :lol:
Ah yes! I saw a lot of Ferraris and I wondered why!
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GG. wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:14 pm
Jimmy Choo wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:06 pm @dan ,your work was greatly appreciated today. 😎
I didn’t realise there were flames. Being at the front I saw/heard nuttin :cry:
I heard the popping but was never directly behind to see any flames. Your 911 was probably loud enough to drown out the pops for you anyway 😄
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Indeed @GG. your car sounds immense! I can't hear many cars so well over mine. :D

Great day out. :) @Jimmy Choo was flying in that Beamer. Feels like the fun driving was over too quick, we should start earlier next time!
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duncs500 wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:30 pm Indeed @GG. your car sounds immense! I can't hear many cars so well over mine. :D

Great day out. :) @Jimmy Choo was flying in that Beamer. Feels like the fun driving was over too quick, we should start earlier next time!
I've just gone through my dashcam footage and disposed of the eviden..... err... I mean look to see if I could see any of the flames from your car. Sadly, my potato was not good enough.
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Awww, I want to see it.
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Thanks very much to Graham for suggesting this and rounding us up to meet. I do enough herding cats at home these days so haven’t been to a meet for years; looking back at old photos it’s over 9 years since I took a photo at the car park at East Ilsley. I would have gone to that one from my old house in Warwickshire but yesterday I was able to convoy with Jimmy from Cheltenham/Gloucester; oddly not a lot quicker to get there from home.

Jimmy and I in our diesel barges decided to meet on the overbridge on the A417 where police camera vans often sit. I thought we looked like unmarked cars; it was Jimmy’s suggestion to mark ourselves as police on Waze :lol: Uncannily, as I pulled down the slip road to join Jimmy he was being followed by a camera van, clearly on its way to set up for the day. Still a nice easy trip down the A417/419 and M4 to the car park, and we were by a very short margin the first forum members to arrive. Not the first people in the car park by a long way, though; I did fear we’d have a day of traffic and frustration.

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It became apparent that this was the most technologically advanced Evo meet I’ve ever been on, Will demonstrating this from the off by texting us that he’d be slightly late because he was charging his Tesla. At Heathrow, as it turned out - probably the nearest supercharger. A late start didn’t matter anyway; after so many years it was good to meet up and chat, and ogle Dan’s handiwork in Duncs’ car, and Graham’s shiny 911. And Will’s Tesla which seemed far higher quality in the flesh than I’d expected; even the vegan leather seemed pretty close in quality to proper nappa (autocorrect suggested kappa for that - should probably have left it :lol: ).

The next technological advance was using sat nav rather than a map. I have found a map I produced for a very similar route in 2011 - posted below for a bit of nostalgia. When we’d gone down the B4494 to Newbury and stopped, Will suggested sharing our locations on WhatsApp which was a bit of a game changer. The nav also took Graham down a different route to the one I’d intended, via a lane through Speen, which was a rather fun twisty surprise and is worth doing again. If we hadn’t put Wickham as a waypoint in the nav I think continuing all the way up this to Great Shefford could have been good too - worth exploring at some point.

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While the nav unwittingly gave us a better route to avoid the A4 and B4000, it also diverted Graham off the A338 down a little lane, then tried to send him up two different routes simultaneously at the next junction. So we missed the top part of the A338 leading to Wantage and ended up going the opposite way up the B4494 - past the disconcerting man with camera from https://www.bikerpics.co.uk/galleries who may have some photos of us in his galleries when they’re uploaded. With the benefit of hindsight I don’t think missing the top part of the A338 was a great loss; a lot of it is 50 limit now due to bikers hooning up and down it, so it’s a nice road but it is open and flowing so really suits a higher speed than is prudent with traffic, police, cameras etc on a sunny Saturday.

Despite the best efforts of a Land Rover Discovery 2 to split up our group and slow us down, I think everyone found the B4507 from Wantage to Ashbury the most interesting road of the day. It goes past the Uffington white horse (did anyone actually see that as we passed it? I didn’t even look) so there’s potential for slow tourist traffic but Jon and I had a lovely clear road to catch up with the rest of the group after the Disco turned off and that was my first real test of the S6. It’s very nice to drive but hadn’t exactly raised my pulse up to this point. I managed to get what felt like a bit of air over one sharp crest and didn’t feel like it was the right car for the road, but it managed pretty impressively and didn’t go to pieces at all on a road which is, frankly, a couple of sizes too small for it.

We turned left at Ashbury and headed down the lovely B road past Ashdown House to Lambourn and lunch. The host at the pub we found (the George) was both welcoming and weirdly unwelcoming; he didn’t sound like he wanted to serve us food while still finding us a table straight away. His resistance to splitting the bill between us while telling us to go Dutch was just as weird when we were leaving. Most bizarre, but the car park had plenty of space - not that we found it until we’d sat down! - and the food was nice enough.

Will didn’t stay for lunch because he had to get back and had already burnt through most of his battery (60% to 25% in what Google Maps says is 56.6 miles). Duncs headed home after we’d eaten, so the remaining four us went up the B4001 to Childrey which is the road I’ve seen on a few YouTube channels in the last few years. I gave the S6 some stick up here and it suited the car pretty well; it’s more open and could deal with the sometimes lumpy surface. It was the first road where I was in 4th/5th rather than 3rd/4th in manual mode. The triangle of roads between Childrey, Ashbury and Lambourn really is great and provides plenty of variety.

At Childrey the four of us who were left said our goodbyes and headed home. A far cry from the days of driving to the other side of Wales and back, and no less fun for it; much more chance to chat. But we had been surprisingly fortunate with traffic so it is still possible to get out there and have fun. Probably 6 cars is as many as you’d want in this sort of area though.

So what about the cars?

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Well it was an interesting split; two silver/grey, two black, two blue. Two diesel barges, two proper sports cars, two more everyday cars (bit of a stretch there - the Tesla is probably more like the diesels in weight and performance than Jon’s Swift). Nobody got left behind though Will was thwarted by traffic lights in Wantage and still caught up perfectly well; dropping back and catching up is often the fun part of a meet anyway.

I love the 911. I’d definitely have a 991.2 for driving to work if I could justify it - I am not as worried about having the last N/A 911 so the turbo engine would suit me better. I had no idea the C4 didn’t really lose any boot space to the C2 in 991 (and presumably 992) form so I’d have a C4. I’d also have the most relaxed suspension; Graham mentioned his was a bit stiffer than ideal on the B4001 but since he does have PASM and PDCC I guess dropping to 19” wheels might be required. It’s a great looking and sounding thing, lovely interior and only other drivers making gestures would be any sort of downer.

The one my heart really wants is Duncs’ Elise though. It sounds amazing and looks just right with the Honda in it. However, I know I’d really like air-con and CarPlay so it’s still a current shape MX5 that I’m test driving on Tuesday.

Jimmy’s 535d seemed little if any slower than my car - you’d need to be on a drag strip to notice a difference. And that meant he and I were able to keep up pretty well with Graham and Duncs. However, Jon’s Swift didn’t drop noticeably behind except on the uphill drag out of Ashbury; but then I remember passengering in his i10 down the same roads a decade or so ago and he didn’t get properly dropped then so perhaps it’s just a more racy nut behind the wheel :lol: Jon’s often been at a meet in an underdog car and seems to love it, but I reckon he needs a successor to the stripped AMG CLK… ;)

Will’s Tesla was always there - he elected to go at the back so I didn’t really get to see how it looked round the corners. I do think the rather hefty battery usage makes it less suitable for meets than an ICE car. How did it feel round the twister bits, Will?

And my S6 is heading towards 9000 miles since I got it in April, the majority of which have been on motorways, so this was really the first proper chance to have a play in it. I think it would probably enjoy sweeping continental roads at three figure speeds ideally; I got home nice and relaxed at the end of the day but I do remember getting back home in my Elise after a meet and being fairly frazzled and don't miss that. Turning on the exhaust noise didn’t seem to arouse any comment next to the 911 and Elise and I turned it off again before we headed home. I didn’t even put the suspension in its stiffest setting and I don’t think you’d need to; it felt really well damped over the crests on the twisty bits. It didn’t understeer and didn’t cook its brakes (I am not king of the late brakers, though). I’ve learned some more about it and might actually take it for a spin round Wales at some point just for the fun of it. I’m really quite pleased. It might not raise the pulse much even driving quite quickly but it isn’t characterless.

Cheers all, it was a good fun day. Oh, and I forgot - noisiest car was the Elise, followed by the 911, followed by Will’s Tesla making fart noises.
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Excellent write up Jobbo. Shame I missed a bit of the fun at the end, but I think I'd underestimated the length of the day out so any later back and I would have been in for some grief. Next time I'll do a better job of managing expectations.

In any case, it was probably nearly 5hrs behind the wheel and I was suitably frazzled when I got home. The car is amazing, I didn't feel entirely dialled in yesterday (I blame a bad night's sleep as I've had plenty of great drives since I got it back), but even if you're feeling cautious it's still a wondrous thing to open up.

In general I feel like I've not got 100% confidence in the brakes sometimes, they are fine, but they're lacking a bit compared to the 7 and the Exige in terms of initial bite. Hardly surprising as they're essentially unchanged since I bought the car (and hence since the upgrade).
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Excellent write up and not much more to add!
I usually factor on 1% = 2 miles minimum so clearly sport mode and using the brakes more than regenerative braking (and just driving like a loon in general) chewed the battery, although in retrospect there are superchargers at the M4 services near Wantage so in future that would be a better strategy to arrive with near full battery.

The Tesla rolls more than I would like through a corner and you feel the mass, plus the width on those narrow unsighted roads makes the line a challenge. It picks up brilliantly out of a corner though and you settle to a slow in fast out pace. I found the convoy would often get away from me only to get reeled back in. I felt genuine pride as catching you up around Ashbury.

All that said I would rather have done it in my old Boxster!

That 535 was the surprise for me, I saw it execute some driving manoeuvres that I would never have expected!

Good to put names to faces though. Looking forward to the next.
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Jimmy Choo wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:06 pm @dan ,your work was greatly appreciated today. 😎
Glad you liked it :D
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Great write up Mr Jobson. Great to see everyone again and Will, to meet you for the first time. I was pleased to see you rejoin our convoy after the twisty section - I was fairly confident you weren't going to catch up whilst Jobbo and I were closing the gap to the others, but good to see you soon after that. Great day. Highlights for me were
- directly following Graham and Duncs at the start with pops, bangs and flashes of flame coming out the back of the Elise. I wasn't too far behind, except every time there was a straight bit everyone in front got 100-200 yards on me. Caught up in the twisties though. Having a narrow car definitely felt like a benefit on these roads.
- the twisty section above once the Disco turned off and Jobbo and I had a clear run. Hanging onto the tail of the S6 took some effort - what Simon gained out of the bends with 4wd and all that shove, whilst I scrambled out of them on the edge of wheelspin, I recaptured under braking, with the benefit of lightness and being behind the wider car in the narrower and twistier parts. The S6 looked planted, for sure.
- the amount of shove Jimmy's 535d had. Love the stealth SE spec of it.
- decent scenery, with the ups and downs of the area.
- just how very pleasant it was to chat and drive and chat and drive. Plus lunch was tasty. Would go there again, especially now we know they have a car park.
Left over crest; tightens.
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