I'm not an overly competitive person, but not going to pretend I wasn't slightly miffed that I was 0.5s behind my nephew's quickest lap after karting this week when it's his first time in quicker/adult karts. I'm just going to blame it on me being about 5kg more than him.
Either way, just for my own sanity what line would you take through the tight "S" bend right in the middle? Through corner 1 and 2.
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Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 11:35 pm
by DaveE
The quickest one
HTH
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:09 am
by Jobbo
Since you’ve got a bit of a straight after corner 2, you need to carry as much speed as possible through that. Not sure what line that actually means in practice in a kart, and I bet whatever that line is would open you up to being overtaken by people diving up the inside on the way in.
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 am
by mik
Dunno what track it is (edit: was looking on the phone without my specs - I now see the "Midland Karting Ltd ) - check out YouTube and I am sure some pro will have a vid of the right line.
I’d do something like this - as per @Jobbo I’d sacrifice corner 1 to optimise corner 2 and try to take a late apex. As also noted - best line if you are alone, but very open to a pass n block if someone is behind you.
Edit: and if it’s wet - probably a completely different line to find grippy tarmac.
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:05 am
by Brannen
I couldn't say for certain, but last time I did outdoor karting, a lot of the really fast guys were staying right on those tricky S bends. Tried to copy and it did seem to work, but there were multiple stag dos on the track, and people were just all over the place and ranging in ability. Made it difficult to take the best line every time, as they'd end up ramming you, cutting in front and making you slow down losing momentum etc.
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:16 am
by mik
mik wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 am
check out YouTube and I am sure some pro will have a vid of the right line.
So rather more "traditional racing line" than my drawing above . I guess my line might better suit something where the balance of power vs grip was biased towards power - whereas it's very much biased towards grip on these karts.
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:17 am
by tim
Ride the kerbs as much as possible
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:22 am
by speedingfine
If you say Dan Webster three times, he appears in a car with a central driving position. I'm sure he'll know what to do
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:29 am
by Rich B
Just stick yourself up the inside and don't worry about a little contact.
mik wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 am
check out YouTube and I am sure some pro will have a vid of the right line.
So rather more "traditional racing line" than my drawing above . I guess my line might better suit something where the balance of power vs grip was biased towards power - whereas it's very much biased towards grip on these karts.
Based on that video, I think the advice is 'Just Go Faster'.
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:44 am
by dinny_g
speedingfine wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:22 am
If you say Dan Webster three times, he appears in a car with a central driving position. I'm sure he'll know what to do
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:31 am
by Matty
mik wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:15 am
Dunno what track it is (edit: was looking on the phone without my specs - I now see the "Midland Karting Ltd ) - check out YouTube and I am sure some pro will have a vid of the right line.
I’d do something like this - as per @Jobbo I’d sacrifice corner 1 to optimise corner 2 and try to take a late apex. As also noted - best line if you are alone, but very open to a pass n block if someone is behind you.
Edit: and if it’s wet - probably a completely different line to find grippy tarmac.
That's the line I was trying, but you lose a ton of momentum trying to take the line tight enough at turn 1 it's difficult to get it back. I did end up following the line in your video but that doesn't seem right either (FWIW I managed a 33.01 but a couple managed 32.5 on that day).
Re: Karting, what line?
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:34 am
by Matty
speedingfine wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:22 am
If you say Dan Webster three times, he appears in a car with a central driving position. I'm sure he'll know what to do
I heard if you said his name 3 times in a mirror he turns up and hits you over the head with a custom, billet aluminium crankshaft?
) - check out YouTube and I am sure some pro will have a vid of the right line.
