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The ford fiesta

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:47 pm
by jamcg
Yup. Dead. Didn’t see that coming

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63391466

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:59 pm
by duncs500
Saw that, shame, they were still good cars AFAIK.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:08 am
by speedingfine
Ford's attempt at replacing the Fiesta with an all new electric small car should be interesting though (assume that's what's coming to replace it anyway)

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:34 am
by integrale_evo
I guess they’re getting more press for killing the name, and in the future from all the ‘new fiesta / fiesta replacement’ articles than they would have got just by releasing another small car and calling it a fiesta.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:56 pm
by Carlos
Surely ripe for an Evamp and relaunch.

I have fond memories of my wife buying a 1.25 Zetec in Thistle Purple. It wasn't long after we first met circa 2000, it looked great and was a hoot to drive, circa £7k brand new 8-)

I can't even find a stock photo of a Mk5 in that colour now !

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:13 pm
by Rich B
I passed my test in a '97 1.25 zetec- I was going to say that's pretty much where my interest in fiestas ended, but we've had two 2005 2.0 STs since.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:21 pm
by integrale_evo
Well, as everything electric seems to have to start with an e or an i, I am looking forward to seeing the new Ford i-esta 😎

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:28 pm
by simon_g
speedingfine wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:08 am Ford's attempt at replacing the Fiesta with an all new electric small car should be interesting though (assume that's what's coming to replace it anyway)
Nope, Puma will be the smallest EV then two larger SUV/crossovers, then the Mach-E and commercials. https://www.tch.co.uk/news/march-2022/9 ... cles-2024/

Small ICE cars are tricky to make now, partly not seen as desirable but also fleet average CO2 plus expectations of decent safety and kit but then people say "HOW MUCH for a Fiesta???". Easier upsell into a new model with more room and a bit more height. The cheaper end is dominated by models based on shared platforms with better economies of scale.

The Escort was the mainstay of the Ford range for decades, sold millions and the name got killed off too - but as there was something good replacing it no-one really cared.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:56 pm
by speedingfine
simon_g wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:28 pm
speedingfine wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:08 am Ford's attempt at replacing the Fiesta with an all new electric small car should be interesting though (assume that's what's coming to replace it anyway)
Nope, Puma will be the smallest EV then two larger SUV/crossovers, then the Mach-E and commercials. https://www.tch.co.uk/news/march-2022/9 ... cles-2024/

Small ICE cars are tricky to make now, partly not seen as desirable but also fleet average CO2 plus expectations of decent safety and kit but then people say "HOW MUCH for a Fiesta???". Easier upsell into a new model with more room and a bit more height. The cheaper end is dominated by models based on shared platforms with better economies of scale.

The Escort was the mainstay of the Ford range for decades, sold millions and the name got killed off too - but as there was something good replacing it no-one really cared.
<Insert 'but the Puma's fucking massive' moan here, along with one about it being a shame the Honda E not selling (cos it's £35k)>

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:41 pm
by Simon
If Peugeot can make an e-208 then Ford can make an e-Fiesta. Lazy sods.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:10 pm
by nuttinnew
simon_g wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:28 pm The Escort was the mainstay of the Ford range for decades, sold millions and the name got killed off too - but as there was something good replacing it no-one really cared.
That was because of how poor the mk5 was, tainting the Escort name, and Ford wanting to distance its replacement from it.
It seems a shame it's going. I guess other manufacturers have safety in numbers because they can share the undergubbins across more models (e.g. 208/Corsa/C3 Aircross/etc).

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:13 pm
by nuttinnew
speedingfine wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:56 pm <Insert 'but the Puma's fucking massive' moan here, along with one about it being a shame the Honda E not selling (cos it's £35k)>
Isn't everything? :( Why does everything have to get so wide?* :?


*Not including things that should have wide, arches of course.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:24 am
by simon_g
Simon wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:41 pm If Peugeot can make an e-208 then Ford can make an e-Fiesta. Lazy sods.
Can, but profitably?

208 is on a massively expensive modular platform (even then only 60% funded by Stellantis, rest from China) that was designed for EV from the outset. It's shared by loads of brands and models, so they get the scale they need to recoup that investment.

Ford are having to "collaborate" (pay £££) with VW to use the MEB platform, currently used for the ID cars and things like the Enyaq. Don't think it shrinks down to Fiesta sort of size though.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:02 pm
by Mito Man
It’ll just be revived as a bloated fugly 4x4 some years down the line. See Puma and Mustang.

Re: The ford fiesta

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:23 pm
by Shlergen
speedingfine wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:56 pm
simon_g wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:28 pm
speedingfine wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:08 am Ford's attempt at replacing the Fiesta with an all new electric small car should be interesting though (assume that's what's coming to replace it anyway)
Nope, Puma will be the smallest EV then two larger SUV/crossovers, then the Mach-E and commercials. https://www.tch.co.uk/news/march-2022/9 ... cles-2024/

Small ICE cars are tricky to make now, partly not seen as desirable but also fleet average CO2 plus expectations of decent safety and kit but then people say "HOW MUCH for a Fiesta???". Easier upsell into a new model with more room and a bit more height. The cheaper end is dominated by models based on shared platforms with better economies of scale.

The Escort was the mainstay of the Ford range for decades, sold millions and the name got killed off too - but as there was something good replacing it no-one really cared.
<Insert 'but the Puma's fucking massive' moan here, along with one about it being a shame the Honda E not selling (cos it's £35k)>
I'm a fan of the Honda e, indeed a massive shame it's priced so high and there are no decent lease deals.