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It'd probably be classed as assault. However, were it soup or mashed potato it'd probably be classed as taking the piss, with a reduced sentence for good humour.
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A few high end car dealerships in Berkeley Sq were painted orange yesterday
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Just Stop Oil ⚖️💀🛢@JustStop_Oil·23h
💬 Carmen Lean, a 28-year-old architecture student from Glasgow, said:


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Shouldn't she be protesting concrete?
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That would just be whataboutism
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^ No, I'm not that shallow.

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Straight talking sense from Starmer 😯

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That is absolutely right and the best thing I’ve ever heard him comment on.

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Injured Policeman and a fairly nasty looking truck on truck crash today.

this has to stop now ...

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I think these protests make more sense than the art gallery ones tbh.
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Not sure I agree - causing an increase in the amount fuel used to make your point about using less fuel seems a bit daft to be honest...
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Saw something on Twitter earlier about journalists that were on site covering the JSO protests being arrested. If true then WT effing F?
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dinny_g wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:34 am Not sure I agree - causing an increase in the amount fuel used to make your point about using less fuel seems a bit daft to be honest...
Causing disruption for the actual thing you're protesting is a better route than protesting at something completely removed from the subject.

As far as fuel burned stuck in the disruption, it's a literal drop in the ocean of fuel we burn a day.

I saw that thing about the LBC reporter as well @Swervin_Mervin. Not that surprising with the increasingly draconian anti protest rules being touted by the government.
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ZedLeg wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:43 am As far as fuel burned stuck in the disruption, it's a literal drop in the ocean of fuel we burn a day.
I was thinking more of the thousands of journeys that will need to be re-taken because of missed appointments etc.

Look I fully understand why they are protesting and support the message that we need to change our reliance on fossil fuels but trying to Browbeat the population into compliance will never work.

If anything, I think the throwing of soup at artwork is more effective because a. It gets more global press and b. it highlights the level of risk to their own personal freedom (imprisonment for criminal damage) that ordinary people are prepared to take on our behalf to try to get change.

EDIT - I’m not advocating criminal damage either by the way…
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V8Granite wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:23 pm That is absolutely right and the best thing I’ve ever heard him comment on.

Dave!
Apart from the bit about carbon capture, which is a completely stupid idea
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dinny_g wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:05 am
ZedLeg wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:43 am As far as fuel burned stuck in the disruption, it's a literal drop in the ocean of fuel we burn a day.
I was thinking more of the thousands of journeys that will need to be re-taken because of missed appointments etc.

Look I fully understand why they are protesting and support the message that we need to change our reliance on fossil fuels but trying to Browbeat the population into compliance will never work.

If anything, I think the throwing of soup at artwork is more effective because a. It gets more global press and b. it highlights the level of risk to their own personal freedom (imprisonment for criminal damage) that ordinary people are prepared to take on our behalf to try to get change.

EDIT - I’m not advocating criminal damage either by the way…
Trying to get people to use less fuel isn’t being unsuccessful due to lack of awareness though. It’s probably one of the most discussed topics of this century.
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At the moment, I think it's unsuccessfully due to a lack if viable alternatives...

And some of the recent commentary isn't going to help matters - 1 trillion pounds in "reparations" due to the industrial revolution would go a long way to providing viable alternatives in THIS country to using less oil
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Really digging into the Daily Mail headlines today? :lol:

The “reparations” are mostly going to be used to stop third world countries becoming increasingly reliant on fossil fuels as the develop.

Also I think finally paying for all the shit we stole is probably worthwhile.
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ZedLeg wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:43 am I saw that thing about the LBC reporter as well @Swervin_Mervin. Not that surprising with the increasingly draconian anti protest rules being touted by the government.
Well, it is surprising. After all, it's down to the police to apply law and you have to wonder why they would choose to do so against journalists and not the protestors.

I would genuinely love to know the rationale behind the police forces' actions, particularly with regard to the protestors not being removed. In most cases we're not talking about the same levl of protests like we've had at fracking test sites for example, where people are handcuffing themselves to things/together. We're talking about people sat in the road and therefore easily removed without much, if any, risk to their safety.
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ZedLeg wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:23 am Really digging into the Daily Mail headlines today? :lol:

The “reparations” are mostly going to be used to stop third world countries becoming increasingly reliant on fossil fuels as the develop.

Also I think finally paying for all the shit we stole is probably worthwhile.
iNews actually - link popped up on a social media feed... :lol:

But it's a daft idea on all counts
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Throwing eggs at the King ?? :roll:

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