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Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:38 am There's sadly been a few high-profile cases recently of cyclists jumping red lights, colliding with a pedestrian and the pedestrian dying. Do that in a car and you can get 14 years for dangerous driving. The same law doesn't apply to cyclists and the archaic "wanton or furious" offence* that can be applied instead only has a max 2 year sentence.

There's going to be a bit of a crack-down and why shouldn't there be ? In the early days of cycling cyclists fought extremely hard for bicycles to be recognised as vehicles (rather than some kind of novelty / toy) and to be allowed on the road. That brings a responsibility to observe the rules.

It's a lovely idea that cyclists could be allowed to ignore the rules if they feel like it but it relies on "people" applying common sense and courtesy when around other people. If "people" could be trusted to do that we wouldn't need the rules in the first place (not just on the road, I mean in life in general).


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Offences against the Person Act 1861
Drivers of carriages injuring persons by furious driving.
Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years,

Sundayjumper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:38 am There's sadly been a few high-profile cases recently of cyclists jumping red lights, colliding with a pedestrian and the pedestrian dying. Do that in a car and you can get 14 years for dangerous driving. The same law doesn't apply to cyclists and the archaic "wanton or furious" offence* that can be applied instead only has a max 2 year sentence.

There's going to be a bit of a crack-down and why shouldn't there be ? In the early days of cycling cyclists fought extremely hard for bicycles to be recognised as vehicles (rather than some kind of novelty / toy) and to be allowed on the road. That brings a responsibility to observe the rules.

It's a lovely idea that cyclists could be allowed to ignore the rules if they feel like it but it relies on "people" applying common sense and courtesy when around other people. If "people" could be trusted to do that we wouldn't need the rules in the first place (not just on the road, I mean in life in general).


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Offences against the Person Act 1861
Drivers of carriages injuring persons by furious driving.
Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years,

Rich B wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:36 am
Nice handwriting though!

Jobbo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:13 pm Should probably get an illegally powerful e-bike kit. That way you won’t get sweaty, they won’t catch you and everyone seems to get away with it

Jobbo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:24 pm Yeah, good point Rich. At least it doesn’t mean points on your driving licence, unlike riding something which should be road registered without insurance, tax or registration.

Gavster wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:51 am
They stepped out and blocked the cycle path, it was a hot day and I was on my way to a party so probably doing about 10mph to avoid arriving drenched in sweat. I’m always friendly and respectful to police and was obviously bang to rights, however, you’re right I could easily have carried on. As she was taking my details I was thinking “why tf did I even stop…”

Gavster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:17 am Thought you guys might be interested to see the context of this. I was cycling the same way so put my camera on to film the lights I ran. The PCSO (who wasn’t wearing hi viz) was standing roughly where the dude in black clothes is walking near the end, just before someone tries to run me over And yes, I still go through red lights, so not looking for any sympathy

https://youtube.com/shorts/XyTG5asNhJU?feature=share

Rich B wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:22 pm

Gavster wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:17 am Thought you guys might be interested to see the context of this. I was cycling the same way so put my camera on to film the lights I ran. The PCSO (who wasn’t wearing hi viz) was standing roughly where the dude in black clothes is walking near the end, just before someone tries to run me over And yes, I still go through red lights, so not looking for any sympathy

https://youtube.com/shorts/XyTG5asNhJU?feature=share

bit much to presume that's a "dude", then to use that term for their clothes. You monster.