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Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:42 pm
by Jobbo
More cars should have suicide doors. To protect those vulnerable pedestrians from cyclists.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:02 pm
by Rich B
If it saves just one life...

Let's start fining cars without suicide doors, how else will people get the message to move into Phantoms, RX8s and old mini clubmans (clubmen?)

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:09 pm
by Jobbo
And BMW i3s.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:16 pm
by MikeHunt

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:44 pm
by Mito Man
Bus brake tested him.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:51 pm
by mik
Vid is from 2022, but cyclist involves the cops 'cos 2 vehicles that have collided are blocking the "mandatory cycle lane" whilst they exchange details.


Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:03 am
by Gavster
Jobbo wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:50 pm
mik wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:13 pm No. Cos they are more vulnerable. So they can pass as close as they like to a car, but the car must then give them 1.5m space if it re-passes.
Cyclists probably fail to remember the tip about giving lots of space to avoid dooring. Oh, let's have an amusing video (not sarcasm - cyclists don't help themselves either):
It's actually a very prescient reminder, becuase that sharp edge of the door is a very concentrated surface area for a cyclist to use as a brake with their face :shock: must result in some pretty nasty injuries.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:05 am
by V8Granite
Do you think they add the swallowing of their own blood into their macros ?

Dave!

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:20 pm
by nuttinnew
A slight aside, with all the features like speed limit recognition legislated now it's stupid that doors don't have to have illumination when they're open. A light at, say, door handle height would work wonders in many situations at night though obvs. wouldn't help with people throwing doors open without looking. There's plenty of mood lighting about, adding strips to the door shut edge of the door trim panel wouldn't be the most difficult job in the world.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:07 am
by nuttinnew

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:16 pm
by mik

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:58 pm
by nuttinnew
:shock:

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:45 pm
by IanF


As an aside: is it a x (twitter) issue or this forum that means we have to change the address for it to be visible?

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:47 pm
by mik
IanF wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:45 pm
As an aside: is it a x (twitter) issue or this forum that means we have to change the address for it to be visible?
I think it was Beany that highlighted that X doesn’t allow embedding - whereas legacy twitter did. Hence adjusting the address allows it to be visible rather than a link.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:20 pm
by Beany
X does allow embedding, but it doesn't redirect cleanly so phpBB might not be able to embed it.

Still, as long as Twitter are getting request to twitter.com they can't close that URL down, so it'll never disappear, which will annoy the piss out of someone there, so it's fine by me.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:05 am
by mik
So is this
A/ filtering
B/ riding down the wrong side of the road (on the wrong side of the lane)


Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:53 am
by scotta
mik wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:05 am So is this
A/ filtering
B/ riding down the wrong side of the road (on the wrong side of the lane)

Id say thats a 50/50. Driver should have looked and cyclist shouldn't have been on the wrong side of the road.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:56 am
by Jobbo
mik wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:05 am So is this
A/ filtering
B/ riding down the wrong side of the road (on the wrong side of the lane)
Do motorcyclists always stay in the same lane when filtering? I don't think there needs to be a distinction. Perfectly feasible for an emergency vehicle to have been coming down there instead of a cyclist; the driver clearly didn't look right at all before smartly pulling away and thus it's the driver pulling out of the side road's fault.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:49 pm
by mik
FWIW I am around 60% driver fault (you gotta look), and 40% cyclist fault (for placing themselves in such a ridiculous road position).

I expect to see motorcyclists or cyclists filtering on my left, or in between between two (or more) lanes of traffic going in the same direction. I'm less "comfortable" seeing motorcyclists or cyclists coming past on the right, as (unlike an overtake) it's often done when there is traffic coming the other way and it feels like a (generally) unnecessary risk to place yourself into the oncoming lane like that. Not that I am massively impacted whilst sat in my car of course, it's just something I'd try and avoid when cycling. I would not consider it normal practice for a motorcyclists or cyclist to be filtering by placing themselves on the opposite side of the adjacent lane intended for travel in the opposing direction. That seems pretty stoopid to me.

I accept Jobbo's point that an emergency vehicle could have been coming down, but - in recognition of the risk - I am fully confident that they would be doing so only with blue lights and sirens on.

Re: It’s time for another forum cycle/vehicle disagreement

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:21 pm
by nuttinnew
B/.