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I wasn’t aware of this.

Can’t use your phone even if it is in a cradle… (possible exclusion for sat QV on phone - tbc)

I was. It's ridiculous

About fucking time, still see multiple people a day openly making calls while driving, never mind the number of people who panic brake more than you'd expect, which is definitely because then traffic ahead slowed unexpectedly, and has nothing to do with them whatsapping thier mate about the latest drama from the council estate instead of looking where they're going.

Absolute pet hate of mine.

Vexatious and overreaching, at least from the context of 'in a cradle' part.

And yet no Government bats at eyelid at a Golf 8 or Tesla M3 where they have eschewed all buttons in favour of a big screen, and, at least in the case of the Golf, the screen is unintuitive and unresponsive.

Just to visit the text of the SI doesn't mention any amendments to the CandUR with respect to cradles...

Shows how slow the government is. Can't use your phone, but can use Apple CarPlay/Android Auto which is the same thing replicated on your car infotainment

I thought it had been made quite clear you can use it in a cradle ?

Dave!

Mito Man wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:14 pm Shows how slow the government is. Can't use your phone, but can use Apple CarPlay/Android Auto which is the same thing replicated on your car infotainment

But carplay has restricted features and uses the cars UI.

Meh, don't see how this affects my life. As long as I can have the phone mounted for satnav I'm grand.

I do use android auto mind you, and you can do a lot on there, I wouldn't say that it guarantees that anything you're doing is safe.

I use “car scanner” app (like the Torque app) to monitor various parameters on the car when I am moving.

Real PITA if that is no longer allowed, despite the phone being in a Brodit holder/charger.

And like @Simon , I don’t see the difference between using a phone in a cradle - which is right beside my head unit - and using the touch screen on my head unit.

Simon wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:44 pm
And yet no Government bats at eyelid at a Golf 8 or Tesla M3 where they have eschewed all buttons in favour of a big screen, and, at least in the case of the Golf, the screen is unintuitive and unresponsive.

I'll grant you, this is also a bloody good point and should be full on fucking banned.

There's a difference between using your phone for calls/text and selecting the next Spotify song on your in car mode screen.

After all most cars these days have iPad sized screens so what's the difference?

As with many things, I suspect that if you apply common sense, you'll not be busted. Unless you're fiddling with your phone in front of the popo then the only other time it's going to get looked at is if you have an accident as a result, in which case you probably weren't doing it appropriately anyway.

I’d like to think that’s true @duncs500 , but suspect you’ll also have that YouTube cycling vigilante bloke taking video of folks prodding their phones in cradles when stationary in traffic, gleefully sending it in to the cops for fines.

Hopefully that would be rare too, but I dunno.

mik wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:51 am I’d like to think that’s true @duncs500 , but suspect you’ll also have that YouTube cycling vigilante bloke taking video of folks prodding their phones in cradles when stationary in traffic, gleefully sending it in to the cops for fines.

Happened to a bloke on Seloc. He had his phone in his hand sat in traffic, cunty cyclist goes by grinning and pointing at his helmet cam. £200 and six points..

Just an example to show the excited glee of the cameraman haven’t fully viewed it, so there may be something valid there (?)

Stopping his bike unnecessarily, two abreast, on a narrow and very busy road.

Incredibly dangerous thing for cyclist to do. Should be banned from the road for endangering himself and others...

V8Granite wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:49 am I thought it had been made quite clear you can use it in a cradle ?

Dave!

I took that as can use it in a cradle but can't touch it, even to unlock it, or use any app.
So waiting for clarification that you can use it as a sat nav (using an app) as long as
- it's in a cradle
- it's set up whilst you are parked, stationary and in neutral
- you don't touch it whilst moving

The new law prevents any hand-held use, as far as I can see: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/202 ... m/contents - it doesn't prevent use hands-free, which means mounted in a cradle you can still use the sat-nav, change music tracks etc.

What it does mean is you can't fiddle with it in your lap and say you were typing an address into the sat nav rather than typing a text to get away with an offence. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.