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We all have our vices

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:15 pm
by mik
I want a half-decent 150mm (6” for you Mercuns) vice. Currently looking at this

https://www.screwfix.com/p/magnusson-wo ... e-6-/8258V

Don’t really trust most of the unknown brand ebay offerings which are a good bit cheaper but may well be made of cheese. :?

Any personal recommendations?

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm
by Mito Man
Have a look at the Machine Mart range, I haven't managed to break one yet despite abusing them.
I'm a bit unsure with Magnusson stuff, it's just B&Qs own rebranded Chinese stuff from what I've seen.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
by jamcg
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:37 pm Have a look at the Machine Mart range, I haven't managed to break one yet despite abusing them.
I'm a bit unsure with Magnusson stuff, it's just B&Qs own rebranded Chinese stuff from what I've seen.
This. So much of this.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:45 pm
by mik
This looks pretty good actually. Recognised brand. Max opening 180mm vs 150mm for the Magnusson.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cvr6rb-2/

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm
by jamcg
mik wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:45 pm This looks pretty good actually. Recognised brand. Max opening 180mm vs 150mm for the Magnusson.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cvr6rb-2/
Out of the 2 you’ve posted that’s the one I’d get

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:07 pm
by mik
jamcg wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:47 pm
mik wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:45 pm This looks pretty good actually. Recognised brand. Max opening 180mm vs 150mm for the Magnusson.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cvr6rb-2/
Out of the 2 you’ve posted that’s the one I’d get
And it’s DCR too. Bonus.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:06 am
by Jobbo
Why do you want a vice with rotating head?

Suspect the Clarke one is just as Chinese as the Magnusson, anyway.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 am
by dan
65 quids worth of chinese vice will be dog shit i'm afraid, but ok if its for very light use once in a blue moon.

Get yourself an old Record vice off ebay or facebook if you can, not the modern chinese Record shit either.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 am
by dan
This was £50 off ebay, it weighs about 30 kilos and is indestructible.

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Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:57 am
by mik
That’s a good shout. Maybe an old Record No5 would do me…. (5” wide jaws).

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:15 am
by McSwede
Get a grip FFS

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:07 pm
by V8Granite
What you bolt it to is more important in most cases. No point having a strong vice if you just end up pulling your bench around the garage.

Dave!

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:14 am
by nuttinnew
dan wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 am This was £50 off ebay, it weighs about 30 kilos and is indestructible.


Nice vice dan(ny).
That is a nice vice dan(ny).

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:39 am
by Foz
dan wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 am 65 quids worth of chinese vice will be dog shit i'm afraid, but ok if its for very light use once in a blue moon.

Get yourself an old Record vice off ebay or facebook if you can, not the modern chinese Record shit either.
That

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:31 am
by drcarlos
Just reminded me I need to get new jaws for my record. It must be 40 years old and I inherited it from my dad, they certainly wear but are largely indestructible.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:15 pm
by integrale_evo
I’ve smashed the crap out of my £50odd machine mart one for the last 10+ years and it’s been fine.

Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:41 pm
by Beany
Only partially related, but here's a video of someone restoring a fractal vice. I'd never heard of one before and they are fascinating.


Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:21 pm
by Simon
Here's another resto by, IMO, the best restoration channel on YT. His attention to detail is unparalleled.


Re: We all have our vices

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:48 am
by mik
I spent a while watching eBay. Old Record 4” vices start at around £80 (delivered) for scabby ones with (often) very scant info on their condition.

Remembering my dad’s old Record woodworkers vice, and how we used it many times to press wheel bearings into hubs (which required the use of a 2kg (usually 4lb actually) persuader acting on the end of the bar. It took a pounding.

But having no plans to do similar, and given it’s intended (hobby not business) use - I just got one of these instead. 5” version.

It seems OK, and despite claiming to open to 130mm (which I thought was pretty meh), it actually opens to 170mm.

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