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Yeah, the rumour is it that Horner was trying to buy it with some backers, Marko who is backed by Jos are on the other side who didn't take kindly to the attempted buy out.
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Either way, shocking that they've suspended the accuser. A lot of people are complaining that it's two consenting adults, but unfortunately it's not that simple when one of them is a boss.

It basically proves, should proof be needed, that if you have enough money you can basically do whatever you like. Not news to anyone really, but we still get reminded of it.
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I'm guessing the culture inside Red Bull in Milton Keynes is pretty poor. This girl obviously has a problem with the way she was being treated - the "Controlling Behaviour" etc

This behaviour would probably not be accepted in other organisations but is fair game in Red Bull. This is why a. It's all being kept secret, b. He was cleared of wrong doing and c. why she's now suspended for making an upheld acquisition

I guess F1 employees all have to sign confidentially agreements so her hands are tied and she is gagged. Now she's suspended and probably can't do anything about it without raising legal issues.

the whole thing stinks
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Suspended on full pay is quite normal when allegations have been made but not yet investigated.

However - if that is normal practice within Red Bull - it seems rather strange that Horner wasn't similarly suspended on fully pay whilst the initial investigation was ongoing?
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duncs500 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:01 pm Either way, shocking that they've suspended the accuser. A lot of people are complaining that it's two consenting adults, but unfortunately it's not that simple when one of them is a boss.

It basically proves, should proof be needed, that if you have enough money you can basically do whatever you like. Not news to anyone really, but we still get reminded of it.
I rather suspect that there is a lot more going on that we don't yet know about. CH appears to have tread on dodgy ground, but there is a distinct whiff about all of this of there being much more to it and potentially all tied in with the power play that's going on. ANd there are lots of questions about the "evidence" that has been leaked as well, and the claimant's relationship with JV.

Regarding the team setup - Joe Saward has written:

"There have been rumours for a while that Red Bull’s primary shareholder Chalerm Yoovidhya, who controls 51 percent of the shares, is considering taking the Red Bull Technology Group Ltd out of Red Bull GmbH empire and setting it up as an independent car company, with Horner in charge and a shareholder in the business. This makes a great deal of sense because a drinks firm does not really have much use for an engine company and a supercar production division. If Yoovidhya has 51 percent of the shares, he can do as he pleases. Removing Horner would leave the technology division under the control of Red Bull GmbH. Whatever the case, Horner wants to be left alone to run the group he has created, without outside interference. When Dietrich Mateschitz was alive he had that freedom."
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This was also interesting
https://jalopnik.com/red-bull-was-ready ... 1851304858
Horner pretty much fired, threatened to take it legal, both sides agreed to do it behind closed doors with a KC but the evidence was mounted so heavily against Horner that they thought it would rule against him. KC agreed with Horner anyway. Even more weird.
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Cheers,

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I think he will be disappointed if he thinks he has ridden the storm.
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Unsurprising “the rules that apply to you, don’t apply to us” argument from Red Bull non shocker
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Sainz out for this weekend as he has appendicitis. Ollie Bearman replacing him!
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Good luck to the lad!
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Solid job by Bearman.

Is Helmet the leaker? :lol:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mark ... /10584969/
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Mito Man wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:44 pm Solid job by Bearman.

Is Helmet the leaker? :lol:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mark ... /10584969/
So it wasn’t Toto like we all thought 😂
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Oh I do hope they collapse!
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=8b-3nZXW ... e=youtu.be

I don’t know if this is common knowledge but I only just saw this and it had me in stitches.

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Mito Man wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:44 pm Solid job by Bearman.
That comment extends to his race performance too!

Very impressive debut, especially as he was thrown into the car last minute.

Honestly, some other teams need to take notice of this and get rid of their drivers which have been in F1 for too long, and sign some new drivers which might be actually pretty damn good.
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Marv wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:37 pm
Mito Man wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:44 pm Solid job by Bearman.
That comment extends to his race performance too!

Very impressive debut, especially as he was thrown into the car last minute.

Honestly, some other teams need to take notice of this and get rid of their drivers which have been in F1 for too long, and sign some new drivers which might be actually pretty damn good.
Do Mercedes have a replacement for Hamilton lined up?
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Zonda_ wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:42 pm
Marv wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:37 pm
Mito Man wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:44 pm Solid job by Bearman.
That comment extends to his race performance too!

Very impressive debut, especially as he was thrown into the car last minute.

Honestly, some other teams need to take notice of this and get rid of their drivers which have been in F1 for too long, and sign some new drivers which might be actually pretty damn good.
Do Mercedes have a replacement for Hamilton lined up?
Verstappen and then Antonelli. If they do sign Verstappen then Antonelli goes to Williams.
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V8Granite wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:32 pm https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=8b-3nZXW ... e=youtu.be

I don’t know if this is common knowledge but I only just saw this and it had me in stitches.

Playing chess and Lego up the arse 😂

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Wasn't aware, enjoying it so far :D 8-)
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Lando was lucky with the start. It was a very obvious jump which left him out of position. He did come to a complete stop, and made a poor actual start, and no other drivers reacted to his jump. It seems the stewards actually used some common sense there despite it being an east penalty to prove.
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