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Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 9:28 pm
by dinny_g
FAO Kiwi Dave... :)

What do you think if this to share across a Canon EOS 620 FF film camera and an APS-C sensor’s 650S giving approx 56 mm equivalent

Canon EF 35 mm f/2 IS USM Lens - Black

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:11 am
by KiwiDave
dinny_g wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:28 pm FAO Kiwi Dave... :)

What do you think if this to share across a Canon EOS 620 FF film camera and an APS-C sensor’s 650S giving approx 56 mm equivalent

Canon EF 35 mm f/2 IS USM Lens - Black
I haven't used one personally but I find the 35mm focal length my far my most used lens on my images. The idea of a smaller one has always appealed. At one point I nearly bought a small digi body and a 35mm just to have as a small thing all the time, then almost bought one of those Sony RX100 where you can't remove the lens. Then I reminded myself I barely take photos and it would be a waste of cash.

I digress. Any 35mm lens on a FF body is awesome. One that's small, has IS is moreso. And 56mm on a crop body is a useful length - why not?

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:40 am
by dinny_g
thanks Dave... :)

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:55 am
by JonMad
My 40mm pancake lens lives on my 40D. Nicely compact and pretty sharp imo. Doesn't go to f/2 and no IS but still, f/2.8 isn't bad and < £200.
That would make the 35mm hard to justify for me, but if you don't have one of those already then the 35mm sounds like a good option.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:56 am
by Orange Cola
What about this [mention]dinny_g[/mention], one of the better rated lenses. No IS but don’t let that put you off.

https://www.johnlewis.com/canon-ef-50-f ... s/p2073332

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:21 am
by JonMad
Creeping up on focal length there, especially on a crop sensor.
I have an old one that doesn't work very well anymore. For £99 I should just get a replacement but again, having the pancake lens makes it hard to justify. That and the 70-200 f/2.8 seems to cover my DSLR bases, with the GRII at 18mm for wider shots.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:43 am
by GG.
dinny_g wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:28 pm FAO Kiwi Dave... :)

What do you think if this to share across a Canon EOS 620 FF film camera and an APS-C sensor’s 650S giving approx 56 mm equivalent

Canon EF 35 mm f/2 IS USM Lens - Black
Agree with the comments on the usefulness of 35mm lenses. For £500, however, I would (and did) buy a very good condition 35mm 1.4 L Mk 1. No IS but in most situations you don't need it as at f1.4 it lets in twice the amount of light as an f2 lens (remember, the f-stops are logarithimic with regard to light capturing ability).

My go to on an APS-C camera for a long time was a 30mm 1.4 Sigma which produced beautiful Bokeh despite being less than 100% on focusing.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:45 am
by Orange Cola
JonMad wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:21 am Creeping up on focal length there, especially on a crop sensor.
Stand further back.

;)

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:57 am
by JonMad
Orange Cola wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:45 am
JonMad wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:21 am Creeping up on focal length there, especially on a crop sensor.
Stand further back.

;)
:D You reminded me of several attempts to use my 70-200 on a crop sensor in a photo studio. No, can't step back any further, there's a wall in the way, best make it a head and shoulders shot instead, or change lenses.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:01 am
by GG.
So effectively your focal length at the short end is 112mm - you'd need a pretty big studio for a whole body portrait!

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:04 am
by dinny_g
JonMad wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:57 am my 70-200 on a crop sensor in a photo studio.
I've been having lots of fun with mine on the 620 FF body.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:05 pm
by JonMad
dinny_g wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:04 am 620 FF body.
Hits eBay.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:22 pm
by GG.
I have a 620 too. Only point of advice is beware the sticky shutter issue - see below:

https://www.instructables.com/id/Manage ... y-Shutter/

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:22 am
by KiwiDave
GG. wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:43 am Agree with the comments on the usefulness of 35mm lenses. For £500, however, I would (and did) buy a very good condition 35mm 1.4 L Mk 1. No IS but in most situations you don't need it as at f1.4 it lets in twice the amount of light as an f2 lens (remember, the f-stops are logarithimic with regard to light capturing ability).

My go to on an APS-C camera for a long time was a 30mm 1.4 Sigma which produced beautiful Bokeh despite being less than 100% on focusing.
Valid comments.

My own 35 is a MkI 35L - it has notable chromatic aberration but is fucking divine. Frankly I'll only swap it out for a MkII, and even then it might be as well, not a replacement.

The 35L MkII, the 85L IS, 11-24 and a few more of the L series TSE lenses are the only ones I still want. But I can borrow the 11-24 and the TSE lenses from work currently so not an issue.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:18 am
by JonMad
Mmmm, a few 35mm mk1s here for £700
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipmen ... 1-4-l-usm/

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:27 am
by mik
KiwiDave wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:22 am My own 35 is a MkI 35L - it has notable chromatic aberration but is fucking divine.
I just had to go and look up chromatic aberration. :oops:

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:38 am
by GG.
JonMad wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:18 am Mmmm, a few 35mm mk1s here for £700
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipmen ... 1-4-l-usm/
I think you could do better from eBay. They look to be an extra 10-15% more expensive just for MBP's profit margin and you aren't getting any warranty with them.

Other than overall condition and coming complete with box, hood, leather pouch, etc. you need to keep an eye out for the centre pinch lens caps which signify it is a more recent production run.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:54 am
by dinny_g
KiwiDave wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:22 am My own 35 is a MkI 35L
I'll be honest, I have been looking at second hand 35mm L's and they are indeed within the same price range but I'm just looking for a small, light, half decent prime which is something I'm missing (85mm Macro aside)

I am going to get a full frame body some time soon and I've sort of factored a new lens into that purchase. Ideally the 24-70 F2.8L with IS but I might defer that and get an Prime L then.

One upside to Covid is I have money to spend on this.

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:27 am
by dinny_g
GG. wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:22 pm I have a 620 too. Only point of advice is beware the sticky shutter issue - see below:

https://www.instructables.com/id/Manage ... y-Shutter/
Just saw this - will watch for that.

My father in law bought it from new and used it extensively until failing eyesight meant he couldn't focus through the eye piece. Then it came to me. I don't think it has put a foot wrong which is I understand pretty typical of Canon products of that vintage. (But I may be wrong - he always spoke of it being bullet proof.)

Re: The DSLR thread

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:50 pm
by Orange Cola
GG. wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:38 am
JonMad wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:18 am Mmmm, a few 35mm mk1s here for £700
https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipmen ... 1-4-l-usm/
I think you could do better from eBay. They look to be an extra 10-15% more expensive just for MBP's profit margin and you aren't getting any warranty with them.

Other than overall condition and coming complete with box, hood, leather pouch, etc. you need to keep an eye out for the centre pinch lens caps which signify it is a more recent production run.
eBay is hit and miss though, MBP you know what you’re getting.