Guess the new classic car

[Simon]

Not a Jag.

It's a bit obscure to be fair. Only about 100 of them made.

Alvis TF21?

[duncs500]

Is it an Alvis?

[Sundayjumper]

You’re all wrong. I can’t believe nobody guessed.

It’s an Alvis !

[Beany]

You’re all wrong. I can’t believe nobody guessed.

It’s an Alvis !

Don't they rent cars, not make them?

[Zonda_]

GG - yes, that's the car. I suspect modern tyres, even Pirellis, are better than whatever they used originally in 1966 ! He's planning on using the car regularly so reliability & safety will take precedence over 100% originality.

Beany - as far as I can tell they were aimed at people that couldn't afford a Bristol. Similar styling and build but with an Alvis designed engine instead of the big Yank V8 lump in the Bristol. Only 150bhp from the triple-carb 3 litre straight six but it'll do 120mph and that was pretty respectable at the time.

He wanted a Bristol really but a decent one is £40k+ and he just couldn't justify that to himself. This has the same air of gentlemanly style at half the price. I'll definitely have to borrow it some time.

The average person wouldn’t know a Bristol from an Alvis anyway.

Beany, the Scimitar is not a saloon.

[mik]

You’re all wrong. I can’t believe nobody guessed.

It’s an Alvis !

Don't they rent cars, not make them?

No - they used to make kids films with chipmunks.

[Beany]

Beany, the Scimitar is not a saloon.

I was interpreting it loosely:



Also, thanks Mik, I now have the theme tune to the Chipmunks stuck in my head.

Cunt.

[Zonda_]

You’re all wrong. I can’t believe nobody guessed.

It’s an Alvis !

Don't they rent cars, not make them?

No - they used to make kids films with chipmunks.

When I first typed it my iPad changed it to Alvin.

[Sundayjumper]

There's a very vague line between 2-door saloon, and coupé. I think it's down to an arbitrary point of view based on the angle of the rear window.

The Scimitar SE4 was a coupé:



But the Alvis is a saloon:



Both two doors, four seats, with a boot (i.e. not a hatchback)

[mik]

Or an alternative silly proposal. Apparently “ It’s important to know when car shopping that there is in fact a difference between the two”.

I always thought our RX8 was a coupe, despite the rear seats being full-adult sized.

[Beany]

I think you're all seriously overthinking how seriously I took that interpretation, which coming from me, is terrifying.

[Sundayjumper]

No, it's bothered me in the past. The E30 was a saloon but the E36 was a coupé. I guess my Compact is a coupé ?? But I'd just call it a hatchback. Calling it a coupé is trying too hard.

Looking at the Scimitar & Alvis pics next to each other, I'm leaning towards the amount of rear headroom. If you can comfortably fit adults in the back, it's a saloon. If the rear seats are fairly useless it's a coupé (aka 2+2).

[GG.]

I always thought it was to do with window surrounds. If its frameless its a coupe, if it has a frame its a 2 door saloon. Think that works for e30 (saloon) v e36 (coupe) and also e36/46 compacts (both saloons/hatchbacks).

You still come across tricky examples though - on the above logic, all 911s pre 996 would be two door saloons

If you apply it to 3 box shapes it probably still works though - though possibly not for older, quirkier stuff.

[PaulJ]

Lovely car. Does it have the 5-speed ZF box being the TF?
I confess a soft spot for Avis as my Grand father had a TA14 when I was a nipper.

[Sundayjumper]

Lovely car. Does it have the 5-speed ZF box being the TF?
I confess a soft spot for Avis as my Grand father had a TA14 when I was a nipper.

Yep, it is the 5-speed. The gear stick is incredibly small, it's like a little computer joystick.

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Engine is a straight six and quite a tight fit with the triple carbs, very narrow engine bay. Still on a dynamo charging system.

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And finally, in its new home.

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[Sundayjumper]

Interesting trivia/coincidence.

The car was built in 1966, and at the time the list price was £3,750.

My parents bought their first house in 1966, a 2-up 2-down in Molesey, costing them £3,250.

A new Alvis back then was pretty bloody posh.

[mik]

From memory that is similar to my late dad's '65 s-type.

Other comparisons - it was a 3.8 manuel with 220bhp but top end was a similar 120mph.

Driving it was a huge event - fabulous - despite speeds remaining very low. Made a fantastic noise.

Unfortunately, after years of weekly use followed by one of no use at all, it was insured, mot'd and taxed for our honeymoon, then tucked back up in the garage to decat and seize up. he got rid a couple of years before he died - lots of rust, leather decay and seized clutch etc. Tragic really

[NotoriousREV]

Interesting trivia/coincidence.

The car was built in 1966, and at the time the list price was £3,750.

My parents bought their first house in 1966, a 2-up 2-down in Molesey, costing them £3,250.

A new Alvis back then was pretty bloody posh.

According to the BoE inflation calculator, £3750 in 1966 is the equivalent of £68k in 2018.

[ZedLeg]

I don’t know much about Alvis but that’s really cool.

[drcarlos]

I always thought it was to do with window surrounds. If its frameless its a coupe, if it has a frame its a 2 door saloon. Think that works for e30 (saloon) v e36 (coupe) and also e36/46 compacts (both saloons/hatchbacks).

You still come across tricky examples though - on the above logic, all 911s pre 996 would be two door saloons

If you apply it to 3 box shapes it probably still works though - though possibly not for older, quirkier stuff.

On that logic my Subaru would be a 5 door Coupe too!