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Zonda_ wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:30 pm Pretty good speech from Corbyn with some funnies too.

He can be as funny as he wants, if the direction he's leading the party in makes them unelectable, he's still as much use as a chocolate fucking teapot.

Still no sign of the Brexit folk.

Let’s get this right, they voted leave thinking they would be ‘taking back control’, they get fed up with May, think all remainers are liars (some brexiteers even suggesting remainers should be shot for high treason or some such bollocks) and in comes BJ. They all love BJ and how he’s ‘getting on with it’ by suspending parliament to allow Brexit to progress uninterrupted. Highest court in the land rules against suspension of parliament deeming it illegal with absolutely no help from EU required to enact the UK’s own law. BJ seen to have broken the law and potentially lied to the queen. Brexit party leader Nigel Farage then sticks his head up and condemns the suspension of parliament and all Brexit voters go to ground because they were found to be supporting something illegal, potentially lied to the very queen they hold the result of the referendums name to and the ‘power they voted to take back’ whallops them and their BJ leader in the face like standing on your own garden rake.

That’s about it, right?

“Prorogation is nothing to do with Brexit”

“This finding against prorogation is an attempt to frustrate Brexit”

Both statements can’t be true...

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:06 pm “Prorogation is nothing to do with Brexit”

“This finding against prorogation is an attempt to frustrate Brexit”

Both statements can’t be true...

I bet there are some Brexiteers in my local who are feeling really frustrated right now.

Zonda_ wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:09 pm

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:06 pm “Prorogation is nothing to do with Brexit”

“This finding against prorogation is an attempt to frustrate Brexit”

Both statements can’t be true...

I bet there are some Brexiteers in my local who are feeling really frustrated right now.

Anyone know the name of Broccers’ local?

Enough to drive you to drink this (no beers in the week so can't report on the outrage in the pub most of which are Labour supporters).

If the current government are doing things which the supreme court is deeming illegal, then surely it's time for a complete overhaul of our current political system, before we even approach the subject of a second referendum, or general election?

Was the feudal system really so bad?

NotoriousREV wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:30 pm Was the feudal system really so bad?

Depends on which side you were on. Although it is currently a fine margin.

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:39 pm Still no sign of the Brexit folk.

Let’s get this right, they voted leave thinking they would be ‘taking back control’, they get fed up with May, think all remainers are liars (some brexiteers even suggesting remainers should be shot for high treason or some such bollocks) and in comes BJ. They all love BJ and how he’s ‘getting on with it’ by suspending parliament to allow Brexit to progress uninterrupted. Highest court in the land rules against suspension of parliament deeming it illegal with absolutely no help from EU required to enact the UK’s own law. BJ seen to have broken the law and potentially lied to the queen. Brexit party leader Nigel Farage then sticks his head up and condemns the suspension of parliament and all Brexit voters go to ground because they were found to be supporting something illegal, potentially lied to the very queen they hold the result of the referendums name to and the ‘power they voted to take back’ whallops them and their BJ leader in the face like standing on your own garden rake.

That’s about it, right?

Nope

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:09 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:39 pm Still no sign of the Brexit folk.

Let’s get this right, they voted leave thinking they would be ‘taking back control’, they get fed up with May, think all remainers are liars (some brexiteers even suggesting remainers should be shot for high treason or some such bollocks) and in comes BJ. They all love BJ and how he’s ‘getting on with it’ by suspending parliament to allow Brexit to progress uninterrupted. Highest court in the land rules against suspension of parliament deeming it illegal with absolutely no help from EU required to enact the UK’s own law. BJ seen to have broken the law and potentially lied to the queen. Brexit party leader Nigel Farage then sticks his head up and condemns the suspension of parliament and all Brexit voters go to ground because they were found to be supporting something illegal, potentially lied to the very queen they hold the result of the referendums name to and the ‘power they voted to take back’ whallops them and their BJ leader in the face like standing on your own garden rake.

That’s about it, right?

Nope

Brexit voter?

Marv wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:20 pm If the current government are doing things which it takes the supreme court a week and 11 judges to determine whether or not they’re illegal, then surely it's time for a complete overhaul of our current political system, before we even approach the subject of a second referendum, or general election?

efa

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:49 pm

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:09 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:39 pm Still no sign of the Brexit folk.

Let’s get this right, they voted leave thinking they would be ‘taking back control’, they get fed up with May, think all remainers are liars (some brexiteers even suggesting remainers should be shot for high treason or some such bollocks) and in comes BJ. They all love BJ and how he’s ‘getting on with it’ by suspending parliament to allow Brexit to progress uninterrupted. Highest court in the land rules against suspension of parliament deeming it illegal with absolutely no help from EU required to enact the UK’s own law. BJ seen to have broken the law and potentially lied to the queen. Brexit party leader Nigel Farage then sticks his head up and condemns the suspension of parliament and all Brexit voters go to ground because they were found to be supporting something illegal, potentially lied to the very queen they hold the result of the referendums name to and the ‘power they voted to take back’ whallops them and their BJ leader in the face like standing on your own garden rake.

That’s about it, right?

Nope

Brexit voter?

Yes

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:35 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:49 pm

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:09 pm

Nope

Brexit voter?

Yes

Knew that would pull someone out the woodwork!

Listening to Michael Gove on the news this morning, he epitomizes everything wrong with politicians. He won't answer questions and spent the entire interview dodging, distracting and spouting nonsense.

Edit: listening to Jeremy Corbyn isn't much better!

DeskJockey wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:10 am Listening to Michael Gove on the news this morning, he epitomizes everything wrong with politicians. He won't answer questions and spent the entire interview dodging, distracting and spouting nonsense.

Edit: listening to Jeremy Corbyn isn't much better!

i listened to it too - it was everything that was wrong with interviewers too - just continually trying to get controversial sound bites for the news piece (on now!)

Orange Cola wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:12 am

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:35 pm

Orange Cola wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:49 pm

Brexit voter?

Yes

Knew that would pull someone out the woodwork!

You knew that making some incorrect amd excitable comments would draw reaction from someone that wasn't in the woodwork more like.

So this is doing the rounds on my Facebook this morning

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LISBON TREATY, THE TREATY THAT WILL BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED IN 2020...
“What will actually happen if we stay in the EU” is a question no remainer will ever answer but here it is warts and all.
1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU LOSE their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with NO abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with NO exceptions or veto’s.
3: ALL member states MUST adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020...
This is the future that the youths of today THINK WE stole from them?
They should be on their knees thanking us for saving them from being turned into Orwellian automatons!

This is the whole reason they are dragging brexit out. So we can get to 2020 then we have no choice OTHER THAN COMPLETE & TOTAL ACCEPTANCE......

I am Locutus of the EU. Resistance is futile.