I wonder if they're going to take a bunch of Russian territory and then use it as a negotiating tactic to get the Russians out of Ukraine rather than forcibly eject them. Take a sizeable chunk of Russian territory, make Putin look weak and incapable of defending his own territory then bring them to the negotiating table saying "You get out of Ukraine and we'll get out of Russia" it'd be much less costly in terms of men and equipment than trying to grind the Russians back.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:12 pm
by Matty
It's strange, it's like the Russians don't even care. I believe the plan was to force the Russians to redeploy troops away from the Ukrainian lines, but reports suggest that hasn't happened and they're not even attempting to defend.
Always seems mad that damage like that can only cause one death and three injuries.
Interesting how many of these drones they can knock out of the sky. Obviously the military will have been working on things long before the public ever get a sniff, but do wonder how the uk would do if someone decided to send a swarm over. Do we have defences in place? Are we relying on the intelligence giving us enough advanced notice if something was planned?
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:23 pm
by mik
No idea if the claim is accurate, but mad footage regardless.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:47 pm
by Beany
Apparently after more analysis, it was determined it wasn't an Su-25, which is good, because that would be incredibly embarrassing.
It was an S-70 heavy unmanned drone.
Good job there'd be lots of them, no big loss, eh? Wait, what's that?
Fuckin' whoops.
(also don't blame me for how twitter links back to it's own posts and decides to thread them when there's quoting involved, just live with the duplication)
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:28 pm
by RobYob
I.. I... Whut?!
That is weird for so many reasons, what did the pilot think he was firing at?
I suppose that heavy drone and F16 are both single engined unlike most other planes in the air war there.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:40 pm
by Sundayjumper
RobYob wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:28 pm
I.. I... Whut?!
That is weird for so many reasons, what did the pilot think he was firing at?
Russia is not a super power. It's an oil well with delusions of grandeur.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:42 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Jesus H
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:47 pm
by Beany
Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:40 pm
Russia is not a super power. It's an oil well with delusions of adequacy.
RobYob wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:28 pm
I.. I... Whut?!
That is weird for so many reasons, what did the pilot think he was firing at?
Russia is not a super power. It's an oil well with delusions of grandeur.
Perun's video "How corruption destroys armies" is fantastic (as are all his videos) although now two years old. Last week's was on the destruction of those enormous Russian magazines and there was more of "How CICI (Corruption, Incompetence, Complacency and Inertia) destroys armies"
However Russia does still have the USSR's legacy of stockpiled hardware (they've still got some of that albeit massively depleted) and things like a functioning ballistic missile industry.
The West's reluctance to give Ukraine everything it needs to push back means we're still looking at potentially years more carnage tragically.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:56 pm
by mik
Uh-oh if true.... North Korea troops supporting attack on Ukraine? Similar stories appearing on a few different sites.
We just sold a load of engines to Ukraine. I don’t think they will
Have many volunteers to commission them .
Dave!
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:42 pm
by Mito Man
This may be an exceptional case where the North Koreans will get better treatment under the Russians. They'll get an entire potato and onion a day and have a relatively swift death vs being thrown to hungry dogs which seems to be the usual way there.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:07 pm
by Matty
Mito Man wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:42 pm
This may be an exceptional case where the North Koreans will get better treatment under the Russians. They'll get an entire potato and onion a day and have a relatively swift death vs being thrown to hungry dogs which seems to be the usual way there.
Malnourished soldiers given there first opportunity to leave the country - who's primary will be "Operation Get Behind the North Koreans" ....? How many will make a run for it at the first opportunity?
General concensus is that their actual worth is very little, due to zero combat experience and signficant cultural/language barriers.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:14 pm
by Mito Man
They may try to run away, probably get shot though. Also the usual North Korean modus operandi is that if a person attempts to flee the country their entire extended family is rounded up and executed/tortured/sent to forced labour camps.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:43 pm
by Sundayjumper
Matty wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:07 pm
General concensus is that their actual worth is very little, due to zero combat experience…
That’s going to be the main thing isn’t it. Very good at marching, not much else.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:04 am
by V8Granite
Mito Man wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:14 pm
They may try to run away, probably get shot though. Also the usual North Korean modus operandi is that if a person attempts to flee the country their entire extended family is rounded up and executed/tortured/sent to forced labour camps.