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Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:20 pm
by NotoriousREV
Yeah, Tim you definitely need to video it.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:44 pm
by tim
LOL mik. I dunno, it's fooking brutal as it is, without dumping the clutch at 8,000 rpm. It may have to get a few miles under my belt first.
JL - yes I guess the whole electronics package is common across. I'm curious what physical differences there are between your bike's engine and mine, as it's the same torque (actually +1 for the R) and -34 powers but at lower revs. Can't just be software surely, else everyone would just correct that.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:03 pm
by NotoriousREV
Cams, intake and 1 point lower compression as far as I know.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:33 pm
by Barry
tim wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:00 am
£233 for the RT (3 years NCB)
£220 for the S1000R (2 years NCB)
£97 for the 748 (none)
That's pretty decent in my book. Decent discounts for RoSPA Gold on all three helps as well as my age and non-Beirut location.
One day I'll make an effort and enrol with RoSPA/IAM.
My Rider policy is due in Jan so my ins upgrade is £69 for the STR, so roughly £90 p/a increase over the Suzuki (£40 of the £69 is admin fee!).
Roughly £90 increase for a new bike with 5k mileage vs 10yr old Suzuki on 1k mileage. I can live with that.
My postcode is Crewe based which for some reason is one of the lowest risks in the country I was told a few years back. Which is nice.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:38 pm
by tim
I'm consistently seeing 10% min discount for my RoSPA/IAM qualifications, but that usually involves editing the quotes served up by comparison sites once you're on the target companies system.
Crash bungs and paddock stand bobbins - talk to me. R&G seem to be well liked.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:39 am
by JLv3.0
R&G are always good - get some GB engine covers as well.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:47 am
by tim
R&G bobbins and front/rear stands ordered.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:50 am
by JLv3.0
Oh! If you can cancel, I'd recommend Warrior over R&G for stands - far more solid. You didn't mention those in your previous post
If you can't cancel, they're fine, just not as solid as Warrior.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:37 pm
by Barry
Not convinced by bungs I must admit, they can only be effective for a limited range of accidents surely? Drop in a car park, very slow low side etc. High speed and they'll just dig in and make things worse IMO. Case covers make a little more sense but I'm not sure I want moulded plastic covering up my nice Triumph engine.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:40 pm
by JLv3.0
Barry wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:37 pmHigh speed and they'll just dig in and make things worse IMO.
I've got VERY convincing evidence to the contrary mate.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:42 pm
by NotoriousREV
It all depends on the crash. For the drops you're most likely to have, they'll do the job. Head on into a car at 100mph, they're probably the least of your worries
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:49 pm
by JLv3.0
This was based on my mate wiping out at 200 kph on track - every bit of protective gear performed brilliantly (both on him and on the bike) but the crash bungs and axles sliders particularly - didn't catch, worn down to the bolt but basically the bike was fine after a little refresh. Without them it would be in the skip.
Painted and repaired for really not much money:
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:47 pm
by _andy
My GSXR1000 had R&G sliders on it which someone had tested out prior to my getting it. No idea how big the off was but damage was limited to the slider, a small scuff on the panel and a scuff on the Arrow can on that side, no doubt it'd been a lot worse without them. I did think about getting some for the MSX but they are quite expensive for what they are. so may go for something more terminal.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:02 pm
by Barry
I was referring to road use tbh, without the nice flat, obstacle free landscape. On the road I'll need more convincing as you're more likely to hit kerb or verge at any real speed.
Reality is I'm too tight to pay through the nose for machined poly cylinders.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:25 pm
by JLv3.0
Do I need to answer that one?
You're probably right mate and they do polarise opinion, as does basically fucking everything. My theory is I'd rather have them and be proven wrong, than to not have them - and be proven wrong.
Call it the 'I Did My Best' mentality.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:51 pm
by tim
Took the 748 out to Two Wheel Tuesday, hit a pigeon head-on at 60 square in the middle of my visor. 'kin hell that was a bit lively. Blood n guts all over the place, feathers all caught up in the little bits of aero on my lid. Thankfully the visor popped right back in, along with the little plastic covers etc and it's totally fine.
My face stings though.
Also met Mr Rainbird of this parish, which was nice. Nicer than pigeon gook anyway! :p
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:47 pm
by Marv
Dunno if Hates made it across here, but I found this tweet of his interesting:
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:55 pm
by Marv
tim wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:51 pm
Took the 748 out to Two Wheel Tuesday, hit a pigeon head-on at 60 square in the middle of my visor. 'kin hell that was a bit lively. Blood n guts all over the place, feathers all caught up in the little bits of aero on my lid. Thankfully the visor popped right back in, along with the little plastic covers etc and it's totally fine.
My face stings though.
Also met Mr Rainbird of this parish, which was nice. Nicer than pigeon gook anyway! :p
That doesn't sound like a pleasant experience
(hitting the pigeon, not meeting Mike)
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:02 pm
by Barry
Marv wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:47 pm
Dunno if Hates made it across here, but I found this tweet of his interesting:
That is odd to be fair, I had the bungs, screen, grab rail and end can declared on my Suzuki and it made no difference to the quotes over the years.
Re: The Motorbikerist Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:04 am
by evostick
R&G bungs worked well when I slid my Speed Triple down the road a little bit.
(hitting the pigeon, not meeting Mike)