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Richard wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:47 pm

Zonda_ wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 2:12 pm And it was bouncing off the limiter most of the way down the big straight!

I wonder why Porsche didn’t/don’t fit a faster final gear?

I guess they probably know more about race engine than I...

Sounds like there’s a whole host of different factors - a comment was made that ‘we could have gone faster but for the front axle’. No idea what that means - motors that act on the front wheels were at the limit?

Anyway I guess the acceleration / top speed balance is pretty optimised if it’s only hitting the limiter in top for a few seconds out of a 5.19.5 lap.

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:56 pm I still reckon a 2004 era F1 car would be faster.

Belgian GP:

2004 F1 fastest lap - 1:45.108 (RAI)
2017 F1 fastest lap - 1:42.553 (HAM)

2018 Porsche lap time - 1:41.770

Did they hire the 'ring...?

I watched the video and actually thought 'oh what, the laps over already?!!'

NotoriousREV wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:08 pm

JLv3.0 wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:02 pm Bloody Porsche - clueless as ever, especially in comparison to an internet millennial

And not even a decent example of the marque.

IanF wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:27 am

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:56 pm I still reckon a 2004 era F1 car would be faster.

Belgian GP:

2004 F1 fastest lap - 1:45.108 (RAI)
2017 F1 fastest lap - 1:42.553 (HAM)

2018 Porsche lap time - 1:41.770

You’ve quoted the 2017 qualifying lap. Fastest lap was 1:46.577. The bus stop chicane has also been butchered quite a bit in the 13 years.

For a long lap like the ring I think race pace is way more important. F1 quali lap times are currently faster as they qualify on barely any fuel and have a fully charged hybrid system plus multiple attempts. In the old days you had one lap with race fuel.
Looking at the 919 video it’s mainly in 720bhp with the odd hybrid boost of 400bhp. It also weighs 250kg more. The V10s were pushing on 1000bhp.

There’s loads of F1 cars in the hands of private millionaires and competitively racing in the BOSS series so I’m a bit miffed as to why no one has tried it.
The once decent BMW Sauber said their V8 could lap the ring in 5:15 - according to the engineers. May be bollocks.

nuttinnew wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:54 am Did they hire the 'ring...?

Yep

Anyone can

IanF wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:27 am

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:56 pm I still reckon a 2004 era F1 car would be faster.

Belgian GP:

2004 F1 fastest lap - 1:45.108 (RAI)
2017 F1 fastest lap - 1:42.553 (HAM)

2018 Porsche lap time - 1:41.770

Where would they qualify for the 1986 Estoril GP?

I want to see it do a lap of the IoM TT course.

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And used the wrong car apparently

incredible commitment from the driver, Schwedenkreuz at 300kph is just... Otherworldly.

Anyone who watches that in car footage and is not flabbergasted at the talent and commitment being displayed really does deserve to be euthanised.

Beany wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:40 pm

The only thing that's made me think is; I wonder if they take sector times during the lap, if so I wonder how close the lap time was to his potential perfect lap time (apart from 'very' )?


Bouncing down the final straight makes me chuckle when I remember a quote from of the Le Mans drivers back in the long Mulsanne Straight days, along the lines of 'it's nice, you can have a bit of a rest'

Marv wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:48 pm

IanF wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:27 am

Mito Man wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:56 pm I still reckon a 2004 era F1 car would be faster.

Belgian GP:

2004 F1 fastest lap - 1:45.108 (RAI)
2017 F1 fastest lap - 1:42.553 (HAM)

2018 Porsche lap time - 1:41.770

Where would they qualify for the 1986 Estoril GP?

Just behind the Lancia Delta S4

NotoriousREV wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:17 pm I want to see it do a lap of the IoM TT course.

Same. It would be interesting to see how fast it would go, especially as it takes the best road racers years to learn how to go quickly at the TT course.

I doubt they could just turn up over the course of a couple of days start beating the motorcycle record.

It would be quite a spectacle though

Especially when the bumps in the road unstick the aero and it careers off the mountain......

A couple of bits more info on the lap;

the Michelin slicks used had such a short life that Bernhard couldn't do a warm up lap. He had to drive the wrong way for a kilometre, do a u-turn and start there.
It can generate that much stick a second power steering pump had to be fitted so it could be turned into high speed corners.
Bernhard did 200mph over the crest at Schwedenkreuz and into the compression at the bottom of Foxhole
On the final straight he was indeed bouncing off the limiter at 229mph, but the front axle 'wasn't allowed' to go more than 223. Naughty Timo

Great bits of detail

nuttinnew wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:49 pm A couple of bits more info on the lap;

the Michelin slicks used had such a short life that Bernhard couldn't do a warm up lap. He had to drive the wrong way for a kilometre, do a u-turn and start there.
It can generate that much stick a second power steering pump had to be fitted so it could be turned into high speed corners.
Bernhard did 200mph over the crest at Schwedenkreuz and into the compression at the bottom of Foxhole
On the final straight he was indeed bouncing off the limiter at 229mph, but the front axle 'wasn't allowed' to go more than 223. Naughty Timo

Funking bonkers