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What bring back Boris - she's already put it a statement of LOOK AT UKRAINE NOT AT HOME so it's like he never left.

Just need to find her a fridge to hide in.

Beany wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:28 pm Just need to find her a fridge to hide in.

She's probably hiding in a fridge in one of them Pork Markets she loves so much...

The problem is that when Boris became PM he kicked out all the experienced MPs and all the moderates, leaving a bunch of opportunistic entryists and brexiteer loons. The barrel has well and truly been scraped with Truss. There is no-one better left willing to put their name down. (Tom Tugboat was illiminated early, and Tobias Ellwood knew it was a poisoned chalice so never even put his name forward.)

Anyone who’d be good at the job wouldn’t take it currently, and anyone who’d take it would be worse than Liz.

She’s digging herself a bigger hole currently. Denser than David ‘Thick As Mince’ Davis.

These two are doing well arent they?

That must be a record turnaround for a pancked Tory backpedal

Also, Kwasi-Kompetent:

He told LBC this morning that "with hindsight it probably wasn't the best day to go" to the Tory party event [champagne with financiers], which he added had been organised "a few weeks" prior to his tax cuts announcement on 23 September.

No, really, do you think??

What’s that? A Tory U turn?

I wonder what exciting and interesting method Labour will come up with to lose that polling lead this week?

We really need a General Election - Big clear out and a re-start

dinny_g wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:10 am We really need a General Election - Big clear out and a re-start

I'd be inclined agree but restart with what?? They're all varying shades of shite. I had this discussion the wife over breakfast. I don't know who I'd vote for, or even if I'd vote. Such is the level of my disillusion with British politics.

McSwede wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:20 pm

dinny_g wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:10 am We really need a General Election - Big clear out and a re-start

I'd be inclined agree but restart with what?? They're all varying shades of shite. I had this discussion the wife over breakfast. I don't know who I'd vote for, or even if I'd vote. Such is the level of my disillusion with British politics.

Billy Connolly's comments are even more true today than they were when he made them 30-odd years ago

“The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one.”
"Don't vote. It just encourages them....”

McSwede wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:20 pm

dinny_g wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:10 am We really need a General Election - Big clear out and a re-start

I'd be inclined agree but restart with what?? They're all varying shades of shite. I had this discussion the wife over breakfast. I don't know who I'd vote for, or even if I'd vote. Such is the level of my disillusion with British politics.

This. A GE now would likely result in a Lab majority. I say let the shitshow continue another 12mo and give Lab a chance to fvck their chances up a bit and maybe, just maybe, we might stand a chance of a coalition. It would still be shit, but perhaps just marginally a bit less shit.

I don’t think there’s many options regardless of which party is leading. I wouldn’t like to be leading going into this winter as the squeeze will continue to tighten. On one hand the opposition can just sit back and disagree with everything because the economy is going to shit regardless of what you do and come out looking goodt. Talk is cheap.

The only thing of any certainty after a GE is that the party, and more importantly, the PM in power is the one voted in by the public. Not by an internal party vote etc.

It may be Truss, it may be Starmer but at least we know that's what the majority want and they can get on with it.

dinny_g wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:05 pm The only thing of any certainty after a GE is that the party, and more importantly, the PM in power is the one voted in by the public. Not by an internal party vote etc.

It may be Truss, it may be Starmer but at least we know that's what the majority want and they can get on with it.

But we don't vote for a PM so don't start with that bobbins. You vote for Lab and there's nothing to say there wouldn't be an internal coup within 6mo and you end up with a Corbyn.

That's the weighing up you have to do when voting.

No I get that...

But at the moment, we have a PM who wasn't party leader at the last GE and I think that warrants a new Election

I can't believe I'm trying this, but could Labour be any worse? I mean, literally, how could they objectively be any worse than what the government have done over the last few years or what some of their individuals in the part and cabinet have done during that time?

dinny_g wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:35 pm No I get that...

But at the moment, we have a PM who wasn't party leader at the last GE and I think that warrants a new Election

But it doesn't, as that's not how it works in this country

Ascender wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:53 pm I can't believe I'm trying this, but could Labour be any worse? I mean, literally, how could they objectively be any worse than what the government have done over the last few years or what some of their individuals in the part and cabinet have done during that time?

Short memories and all that.

I had to laugh this morning at Gordon Brown tweeting about the ideology behind the Truss/Kwarteng economics - the very same man that presided over widespread deregulation that played its part in the 2008 crash. A man that only introduced the 50p rate as a last-miute fvck-you hurrah to the likely incoming Tory/coalition Gov't.

But in truth, we don't know. Because we haven't really had a proper Labour Gov't since the late '70s.