Simon wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:27 am
It's all those driving 'heroes' on PH for which anything but a manuel is sacrilege, and for whom even a modern turbo lump is no comparison to a decades old larger lump that's 'lag free'.
You know the kind, the same who will kill themselves when we go all electric.
PaulJ wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:07 pm
Anyone know how wide it is over the door mirrors? (I'm always ambitious on judging viable gaps to go for!).
"Key dimensions of the Emira are length 4,412mm; width 1,895mm; height 1,225mm; and wheelbase 2,575mm"
I have to assume that width is to the outer door mirrors.
A comment on the dimensions here (goes straight to the relevant part);
Doesn't help with whether it's in the body or across the mirrors.
Thanks for the info. Other sources suggest that the Lotus is almost identical in length (good), about 6cm lower (fine), but about 17cm wider (unacceptable). Count me out, unfortunately. My heart says Lotus but my head chooses Porsches.
Zonda_ wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 am
Watched Harry's garage vid on the launch. I like it, I think they could do with a cheaper, more track focused model. Biggest thing I took from the launch is how small the Evija is!
That's a contradiction though isn't it, it's the extra fruit salad of options where the margins are. You have to be as clever as Porsche to pull of the charging more for less trick.
That's a contradiction though isn't it, it's the extra fruit salad of options where the margins are. You have to be as clever as Porsche to pull of the charging more for less trick.
Holy fuck that's ugly! I just think Lotus would be better creating a range of realistically affordable sports cars rather than £million+ hyper cars.
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:37 pm
by drcarlos
I like that, side profile is a bit 458 like and good for it IMO.
I'd have a V6 Manual.
I'm sure 99% of people will still buy the Porsche because of the badge whether the Lotus is the better drivers car or not.
It's funny because no one really stops to talk to you about a Porsche but a Lotus is slightly different so I'd imagine much like my Chim you get randoms admiring and asking questions (which is a little odd at first, but kind of nice).
Holy fuck that's ugly! I just think Lotus would be better creating a range of realistically affordable sports cars rather than £million+ hyper cars.
The "How to make a fortune in sportscars" problem!
Manufacturers that incur the costs of globalised development need to recoup those somehow.
You either need to be much bigger, or charge a lot more.
The list of those who've tried and failed would break this forum.
What is a surprise is the tie in with AMG rather than Geely pushing its own powertrains into Lotus. That might be the route for a Cheaper Emira sometime in the future.
Holy fuck that's ugly! I just think Lotus would be better creating a range of realistically affordable sports cars rather than £million+ hyper cars.
The "How to make a fortune in sportscars" problem!
Manufacturers that incur the costs of globalised development need to recoup those somehow.
You either need to be much bigger, or charge a lot more.
The list of those who've tried and failed would break this forum.
What is a surprise is the tie in with AMG rather than Geely pushing its own powertrains into Lotus. That might be the route for a Cheaper Emira sometime in the future.
the AMG tie up is worth its weight in marketing gold. "My lotus has an AMG engine like a zonda innit".
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:16 pm
by Rich B
Are they really going to be £60k? There's 2nd hand Evoras at more than that on AT.
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:20 pm
by scotta
Rich B wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:16 pm
Are they really going to be £60k? There's 2nd hand Evoras at more than that on AT.
Thats for an un-optioned 4 banger.
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm
by Mito Man
I saw it at Goodwood today and it’s nicely proportioned if a bit bland as most sports cars today seem to feature far more aero bits and pieces. They had it next to a Evija which didn’t help. There was also an Elise in front of it which made it look massive. It is a rather large car for just 2 seats, don’t know how it compares to a Caymen in that regard.
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:56 pm
by scotta
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm
I saw it at Goodwood today and it’s nicely proportioned if a bit bland as most sports cars today seem to feature far more aero bits and pieces. They had it next to a Evija which didn’t help. There was also an Elise in front of it which made it look massive. It is a rather large car for just 2 seats, don’t know how it compares to a Caymen in that regard.
Other sources at goodwood tell me they had taken 500 deposits by lunchtime.
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm
I saw it at Goodwood today and it’s nicely proportioned if a bit bland as most sports cars today seem to feature far more aero bits and pieces. They had it next to a Evija which didn’t help. There was also an Elise in front of it which made it look massive. It is a rather large car for just 2 seats, don’t know how it compares to a Caymen in that regard.
Other sources at goodwood tell me they had taken 500 deposits by lunchtime.
Good, sounds very promising. Wish TVR would pull their finger out and get on with building the Griffith.
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm
I saw it at Goodwood today and it’s nicely proportioned if a bit bland as most sports cars today seem to feature far more aero bits and pieces. They had it next to a Evija which didn’t help. There was also an Elise in front of it which made it look massive. It is a rather large car for just 2 seats, don’t know how it compares to a Caymen in that regard.
Other sources at goodwood tell me they had taken 500 deposits by lunchtime.
Good, sounds very promising. Wish TVR would pull their finger out and get on with building the Griffith.
That's more and more looking like an IF rather than a when.
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm
I saw it at Goodwood today and it’s nicely proportioned if a bit bland as most sports cars today seem to feature far more aero bits and pieces. They had it next to a Evija which didn’t help. There was also an Elise in front of it which made it look massive. It is a rather large car for just 2 seats, don’t know how it compares to a Caymen in that regard.
Other sources at goodwood tell me they had taken 500 deposits by lunchtime.
Yes, there was a queue of about 1000 middle aged men basically begging them to take their money and I overheard one person moaning of a 18 month plus wait already.
Mito Man wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:37 pm
I saw it at Goodwood today and it’s nicely proportioned if a bit bland as most sports cars today seem to feature far more aero bits and pieces. They had it next to a Evija which didn’t help. There was also an Elise in front of it which made it look massive. It is a rather large car for just 2 seats, don’t know how it compares to a Caymen in that regard.
Other sources at goodwood tell me they had taken 500 deposits by lunchtime.
Yes, there was a queue of about 1000 middle aged men basically begging them to take their money and I overheard one person moaning of a 18 month plus wait already.
Yep 18 months for delivery was what they were quoting.
Other sources at goodwood tell me they had taken 500 deposits by lunchtime.
Good, sounds very promising. Wish TVR would pull their finger out and get on with building the Griffith.
That's more and more looking like an IF rather than a when.
We had an update via the club (worth every penny to join for the 50% discount I got on my insurance) last month and they are fitting out the factory at the moment, how long the funds will last I don't know, so some cautious optimism there.
With a working factory and a decent car the FOS is a great place to tempt people into parting with their cash.
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:11 pm
by Ascender
Looks quite nice although that lack one to me looks like a squished 360/430 and now I can't un-see it.
Re: Lotus Emira
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:49 pm
by Coaster1
scotta wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:30 pm
Yep 18 months for delivery was what they were quoting.
No doubt we’ll see a few early cars being flipped for £10+k over!
TVR Griffith looks really dated by comparison. Who’s going to buy them?
Speaking of which, who’s going to buy all those £90k+ delivery miles Evora GT410 at dealer...
