Re: Courtesy Car Lottery
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:45 pm
Blimey, it has an electric bootlid.
An interesting comparison, the MG has a 1.5t with manuel, 162bhp @5500rpm, 184 lb ft @1500-4400rpm, 0-60 9.6s, 118mph, 1539kg.Jobbo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:16 am Bumping this for @nuttinnew but also because I have a discourtesy car today; my Allroad is being serviced. It's a brand new Audi Q2 30TSI manual S-line.
Conceptually similar to our Yeti I guess, though the platform sharer would have been the previous-generation Q3. This feels smaller, lighter, a bit flimsy and hollow but nippy. Quite fun, and despite being darty it has great directional stability and rides well. A very polished car to drive, though I'd be disappointed with the amount of different plastics and the generally hollow feel, coming from an A6 or even compared to the Yeti - lightness is good but comes at a perceived quality cost.
It's well equipped but being a car launched in 2016 there are some things which are now incongruous:
- Normal key with no push-button start.
- Manual gearbox with a clutch (how very old-fashioned)
- Incongruous electronic handbrake and full digital dash which can be all nav map
- rotary MMI controller rather than touch-screen
It's more the incongruity of all the modern shit alongside the turn key and manual gearbox that gives it a weird vibe. A DSG version would feel much more appropriate.
Other things I'd mention:
- Engine is a 110bhp 1.0 turbo. It sounds fine, very quiet, but compared to the 1.2TSI with 110bhp in the Yeti it feels less strong. It won't fool you into thinking there's a much bigger powerplant than there is.
- The digital dash is fitted angled away from you at the bottom. I'm sure it's to reduce reflections but it makes it much harder to read the map even when it fills the whole screen. I reverted to digital dials; the map is still visible on the centre screen.
- The standard VW/Audi mirror controller is cheaper-feeling than my A6; it feels like moving it presses a microswitch on a 1980s joystick, not the nice satisfying feel I've always encountered before (even in things like my ex-wife's Beetle, 20 years ago).
If you don't mind that I'd probably recommend it - except it's just over £30k new on the road and over £33k if you get the DSG version (which comes with the 1.5 engine and 150bhp, so definitely preferable).
Well, we didn't hire an EV in the end. We opted for the fairly vanilla choice of a V60 at £280 for 8 (I think) days. Nearly upped it to a V90 as rates were so cheap but glad we didn't as the roads near the house we rented were fairly tight.Swervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:38 pm ID3 seems to be one of the main ones that's specifically offered. And we'd only be using it whilst we're at a rental house, which has an EV charger.
I'd obviously have to enquire first as to whether any extra would be due to cover any charging, but otherwise I was half tempted to give it a crack. It's more the driving aspect I'm unsure of - having never driven one I've no idea just how different it would be to drive. Hence on unfamiliar roads could be an issue?
My A3 has the same engine, I went to Hitchin and back in it last week, 400 mile round trip, 60.1 MPG.Jobbo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:16 am Bumping this for @nuttinnew but also because I have a discourtesy car today; my Allroad is being serviced. It's a brand new Audi Q2 30TSI manual S-line. I may be one of the first people to drive it because switching between menus on the MMI gave me messages about how to zoom the nav map which look like first-time use things.
Conceptually similar to our Yeti I guess, though the platform sharer would have been the previous-generation Q3. This feels smaller, lighter, a bit flimsy and hollow but nippy. Quite fun, and despite being darty it has great directional stability and rides well. A very polished car to drive, though I'd be disappointed with the amount of different plastics and the generally hollow feel, coming from an A6 or even compared to the Yeti - lightness is good but comes at a perceived quality cost.
It's well equipped but being a car launched in 2016 there are some things which are now incongruous:
- Normal key with no push-button start.
- Manual gearbox with a clutch (how very old-fashioned)
- Incongruous electronic handbrake and full digital dash which can be all nav map
- rotary MMI controller rather than touch-screen
It's more the incongruity of all the modern shit alongside the turn key and manual gearbox that gives it a weird vibe. A DSG version would feel much more appropriate.
Other things I'd mention:
- Engine is a 110bhp 1.0 turbo. It sounds fine, very quiet, but compared to the 1.2TSI with 110bhp in the Yeti it feels less strong. It won't fool you into thinking there's a much bigger powerplant than there is.
- The digital dash is fitted angled away from you at the bottom. I'm sure it's to reduce reflections but it makes it much harder to read the map even when it fills the whole screen. I reverted to digital dials; the map is still visible on the centre screen.
- The standard VW/Audi mirror controller is cheaper-feeling than my A6; it feels like moving it presses a microswitch on a 1980s joystick, not the nice satisfying feel I've always encountered before (even in things like my ex-wife's Beetle, 20 years ago).
If you don't mind that I'd probably recommend it - except it's just over £30k new on the road and over £33k if you get the DSG version (which comes with the 1.5 engine and 150bhp, so definitely preferable).
My mate said similar things. His A250e of due back with Merc, and he wants to go electric. Despite not liking the looks very much or wanting an SUV he's ended up with an EQA. He was very disappointed with the Audi e-tron interior feel and quality. It is about the same cost as the Merc, but felt very inferior by comparison. Same for other VW group products.
@Swervin_Mervin Might be a good time to buy one Mike - seems Volvo are binning everything but SUVsSwervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:19 pm Well, we didn't hire an EV in the end. We opted for the fairly vanilla choice of a V60 at £280 for 8 (I think) days. Nearly upped it to a V90 as rates were so cheap but glad we didn't as the roads near the house we rented were fairly tight.
Was well impressed with the Volvo I have to say - it was a diesel model with 45,000km on the clocks and yet it was like new. I've never driven one before and it genuinely surprised me just how good it was and how much I liked driving it. Had a solidity and heft to the controls and ride that reminded me of the E91 actually. And far superior to any F series BMW I've driven or any offerings from the VW group stable. I think if I was in the market for a family car (i.e. if the wife didn't want to keep her Superb) one of these would definitely be considered.
What an utterly bizarre strategy. All of their SUV lineup these days have weedy engines as well.Jobbo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:48 pm@Swervin_Mervin Might be a good time to buy one Mike - seems Volvo are binning everything but SUVsSwervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:19 pm Well, we didn't hire an EV in the end. We opted for the fairly vanilla choice of a V60 at £280 for 8 (I think) days. Nearly upped it to a V90 as rates were so cheap but glad we didn't as the roads near the house we rented were fairly tight.
Was well impressed with the Volvo I have to say - it was a diesel model with 45,000km on the clocks and yet it was like new. I've never driven one before and it genuinely surprised me just how good it was and how much I liked driving it. Had a solidity and heft to the controls and ride that reminded me of the E91 actually. And far superior to any F series BMW I've driven or any offerings from the VW group stable. I think if I was in the market for a family car (i.e. if the wife didn't want to keep her Superb) one of these would definitely be considered.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... -cars-axed
That is a very bizarre strategy! But perhaps not surprising given that people in the UK seem obsessed by SUVs. As I intimated further up, it seems that in their homeland at least the estate still ruled the roost over the SUVs. Every 2nd driveway had a V60 or V90 parked on it. It was only when we got into the truly wealthy suburbs (bearing in mind the houses near where we were staying were very well north of £1m) that we noticed more SUVs.Jobbo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:48 pm@Swervin_Mervin Might be a good time to buy one Mike - seems Volvo are binning everything but SUVsSwervin_Mervin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:19 pm Well, we didn't hire an EV in the end. We opted for the fairly vanilla choice of a V60 at £280 for 8 (I think) days. Nearly upped it to a V90 as rates were so cheap but glad we didn't as the roads near the house we rented were fairly tight.
Was well impressed with the Volvo I have to say - it was a diesel model with 45,000km on the clocks and yet it was like new. I've never driven one before and it genuinely surprised me just how good it was and how much I liked driving it. Had a solidity and heft to the controls and ride that reminded me of the E91 actually. And far superior to any F series BMW I've driven or any offerings from the VW group stable. I think if I was in the market for a family car (i.e. if the wife didn't want to keep her Superb) one of these would definitely be considered.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... -cars-axed
Yeah, but - 4 cylinders. Having said that my wife's Macan is 4-cyl and it's quite a nice engine; I could live with the EA888 engine. Unlike that Volvo V90 I had which was a bit coarse.