Second - Russia is a poor country that thinks it’s a superpower. Ignore the glitz of Moscow and the rest of the country is desperately poor. I already knew this but it was eye-opening to see some numbers:
Russia household income per capita in Dec 2021 was $6,523.
UK was $35,231
By definition Russia is not a Third World country (clicky for etymology), but once we get the 2022 numbers, and then 2023 when economic factors really kick in, they might as well be.
Instead of Leopard tanks Olaf Scholz will offer Ukraine NFTs, Non Fungible Tanks.
Claims they're better than actual tanks because you can't destroy an NFT.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:19 am
by mik
Sundayjumper wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:59 pm
Second - Russia is a poor country that thinks it’s a superpower. Ignore the glitz of Moscow and the rest of the country is desperately poor. I already knew this but it was eye-opening to see some numbers:
Have been to Russia (only Moscow, but city outskirts as well as city) several times over the last decade. I’m always struck by how miserable the vast majority of people seem. The depression is annoyingly infectious, and a million miles away from the vibe of somewhere like Warsaw. Life expectancy is Russia - particularly for men - is awful.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:48 am
by jamcg
mik wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:19 am Life expectancy is Russia - particularly for men - is awful.
I imagine that number will have taken a severe nosedive recently
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:09 am
by RobYob
Interesting analysis of war economies.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:55 pm
by Sundayjumper
Front line hot tub !
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:13 pm
by Mito Man
I wouldn't like to be in that what with the infrared signature it must give off!
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:54 pm
by Beany
Mito Man wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:13 pm
I wouldn't like to be in that what with the infrared signature it must give off!
You're assuming the russians have anything that can reasonably detect IR left.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:57 pm
by nuttinnew
Somebody needs to mash that into Hot Tub Time Machine.
Mito Man wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:13 pm
I wouldn't like to be in that what with the infrared signature it must give off!
You're assuming the russians have anything that can reasonably detect IR left.
You're assuming the Russians had anything that could reasonably detect IR in the first place
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:11 pm
by V8Granite
We are all assuming that half of the poor sods being sent there are untrained and basically cannon fodder, awful for all the people pushed to the front.
Dave!
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:26 pm
by Simon
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:52 pm
by nuttinnew
I'm surprised he didn't ban the women from wearing heels.
Re: Ukraine
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:17 pm
by Ascender
So with aid continuing, the Russians getting nowhere and Putin presumably being madder than a dickless dog, what next? Is there any more chance of him doing something monumentally stupid or is it all just rhetoric which surely some of his allies and opponents in the government must be realising is just bluster? What are they now hoping to achieve given the way this conflict is going for them?