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Gavster wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:17 pm Fifteen years later and the teenage pregnancy rate dropped 50%. It was a massive win for a successful policy that only showed the results after four more general elections.

That's not down to the policy, it's down to the fact there are no council houses anymore so the incentive isn't there...

Dropping fertility rates doing a lot of the heavy lifting here

Age old problem. The public want instantaneous results, the government need to start seeing spending and economic results within 3 years before they start focusing on building it all back up for GE, the biggest problems need consistency for much longer.

At the moment I'm ok with sitting back and watching what happens. Even making the left hand talk to the right hand (in proper detail at least) could take months or years and there is a limit on the number of people they can point at solving the amount of problems. Everyone has a different agenda and want things sorted on their area of interest immediately, but you take away the few (in the greater scheme) of elected representatives and it's all the same people who you are asking to change their ways... not easy in any organisation.

It's a massive task at the end of the day, it'll take their whole term and more, but we'll also get the chance to judge their progress.

I’ll judge them on the shitty things they’ve already done tbh.

ZedLeg wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:27 pm I’ll judge them on the shitty things they’ve already done tbh.

Fair enough, but your meaningful judgement will be at the next election, so they probably figure they have time to reverse your opinion of them later. Albeit we already know they are not at all aligned to your political views, nor are they ever likely to be, so impressing you is probably pretty low on their agenda.

You’re right, I didn’t vote for them and probably won’t again.

Weirdly doesn’t feel that great to see the things we predict happen come to pass.

Friends have already got letters to review their healthcare and everyone on benefits is scared for what’s coming.

There’s literally a bunch of “labour voters” raging on a bbc article talking about how much benefits people get.

Society seems particularly mean just now.

Reeves blaming the Tories, which is a fair criticism, but they need to stop doing it, they can't keep going on about it like a broken record

It didn't feel a great intro, and that's a shame for the first non-Conversative budget in ~15 years and for the first female chancellor. She should have made herself appear forward-looking.

Gavster wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:50 pm Reeves blaming the Tories, which is a fair criticism, but they need to stop doing it, they can't keep going on about it like a broken record

That's what they all do. Did the Cons ever stop blaming the last Lab Govt?

Like I've sad before, same shit - different colour tie.

Guess my £4.50 latte will be £5 now

Swervin_Mervin wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:54 pm That's what they all do. Did the Cons ever stop blaming the last Lab Govt?

No, even when it was pointed out that they'd been in power for 14 years

Freezing fuel duty. That's a surprise.

I'll go buy a V8.

£3bn a year could be raised from fuel duty and she's not taking it; where is she getting the £22bn from?

Employers NI. Up 1.2% (at least it's a nice round number now) plus lowering threshold to £5k

But increased Employment Allowance for small businesses to offset the Employers' NI increase; not sure what the net effect will be for us yet.

Big jump in CGT...

Simon wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:02 pm Freezing fuel duty. That's a surprise.

It's much more fun to punish all those Tesla driving wan*ers by making them pay £200 VED.

IHT could've been worse. Still an immoral tax though.