Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:06 pm
Looks pretty wank considering the miracle vaccine is in all the vulnerable already.
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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:15 pm
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:37 pm
I'm not bothered about either just people getting back to work is my concern.Rich B wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:15 pmDid you expect them to prioritise opening pubs over trying to get kids back to school?
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:30 pm
Depressing state of affairs in the EU. Political leaders have managed to do a great job of panning the AZ vaccine to the extent that in Germany they've only used c100,000 of the c700,000 they've received. Italian medics advising people to not have it etc. In Germany, as they aren't told what they're going to get people just aren't turning up for their vaccine appointments because they don't want the AZ one. The cocks in charge could at least send the AZ vaccines to those countries that are happy to use them.
Meanwhile the Croatians have joined the likes of Hungary and ordered a load of the Sputnik vaccine. France is staring down the barrel of a long lockdown as cases are steady at c20k/day.
So that EU unity that was the basis of the delayed procurement process is really working out for them now
Meanwhile the Croatians have joined the likes of Hungary and ordered a load of the Sputnik vaccine. France is staring down the barrel of a long lockdown as cases are steady at c20k/day.
So that EU unity that was the basis of the delayed procurement process is really working out for them now
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:32 pm
Going to struggle to get back to work if your kids are at home.Broccers wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:37 pmI'm not bothered about either just people getting back to work is my concern.
I can't fvcking wait for them to go back
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:14 am
The early leaks on the BBC are saying 29th March fo two households meeting outdoors, so I'd be surprised if outdoor pubs and restaurants are even that early on that basis.
It's all going to be very conservative by the looks of it. A few more pub landlords will probably be jumping off bridges today.
I have no problem with kids going back first, it boosts everything because more adults can go back to work. Let's see what the full picture is, but it already looks like it will be hard to swallow for hospitality.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:35 am
Looks like they are saying a rise in infections itself will not be a trigger to reverse the unlocking, only if it is resulting in a lot of hospital admissions. So that pretty much answers my question.duncs500 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:59 pm My question is, if we open up and the infection rate spikes but the mortality / serious illness rate doesn't (due to the vaccines). Does that mean another lockdown or not?
I'm glad because when those dirty little urchins go back to school you're bound to see some more transmission.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:32 am
I cannot wait for the schools to go back. Maxwell is fine with it all but Connor is really struggling.
That plan looks sensible to me, the sooner every adult is available for work then the sooner some money can pump around the economy.
Dave!
That plan looks sensible to me, the sooner every adult is available for work then the sooner some money can pump around the economy.
Dave!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:56 am
We went for a walk with my mum at the weekend (we're in a bubble with her before anyone starts). She said she was feeling quite emotional lately and gets sad because of the loneliness of this whole thing. It wasn't a depressing conversation or anything on her part, but still hard to listen to.
I can only imagine how hard it has been for a lot of older people that are on their own.
The village pub is obviously at the centre of village socialising and a landlord finally took it over and managed to open it in the autumn for a few weeks before lockdown started again.
I can only imagine how hard it has been for a lot of older people that are on their own.
The village pub is obviously at the centre of village socialising and a landlord finally took it over and managed to open it in the autumn for a few weeks before lockdown started again.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:53 am
I still can't comprehend why Nurseries were allowed to be open through most of this
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:58 am
to be brutally honest, neither can I. I'm incredibly thankful they were though.Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:53 am I still can't comprehend why Nurseries were allowed to be open through most of this
However, the main difference compared to schools has been the group size and control available. Our nursery has small group sizes (around 6) with strict separation at all times including staff. We have had one case in the last 6 months and the nursery group was instantly closed for 2 weeks and it went no further.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:07 am
That's an unusually small group size, but the fact remains that each could carry and transmit
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:22 am
is it? The minimum ratio of carer to child ratios for child minding are
Under 2 yo- 1 carer 3 children
2-3 yo- 1 carer 4 children
3-5 yo- 1 carer 8 children
Most of the rooms have 2 carers (which is normal every nursery we saw), so all the under 3s are a max size of 8 by law.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:32 am
I don't really know TBH !
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:34 am
Meanwhile here studies have shown one dose of the AZ vaccine reduces hospitalisation from corona by 94% after 4 weeks, while Pfizer is 85%. Real world people who have had it, not just medical trials.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:30 pm Depressing state of affairs in the EU. Political leaders have managed to do a great job of panning the AZ vaccine to the extent that in Germany they've only used c100,000 of the c700,000 they've received. Italian medics advising people to not have it etc. In Germany, as they aren't told what they're going to get people just aren't turning up for their vaccine appointments because they don't want the AZ one. The cocks in charge could at least send the AZ vaccines to those countries that are happy to use them.
Meanwhile the Croatians have joined the likes of Hungary and ordered a load of the Sputnik vaccine. France is staring down the barrel of a long lockdown as cases are steady at c20k/day.
So that EU unity that was the basis of the delayed procurement process is really working out for them now
That’s if I’ve just understood what they said on the news on the radio correctly.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:40 am
That's my understanding, it seems AZ were always a lot more comfortable with the prioritising of getting first doses to people than Pfizer, so it kinda makes sense (not that the Pfizer numbers are bad).
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:53 pm
That's my understanding also.integrale_evo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:34 amMeanwhile here studies have shown one dose of the AZ vaccine reduces hospitalisation from corona by 94% after 4 weeks, while Pfizer is 85%. Real world people who have had it, not just medical trials.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:30 pm Depressing state of affairs in the EU. Political leaders have managed to do a great job of panning the AZ vaccine to the extent that in Germany they've only used c100,000 of the c700,000 they've received. Italian medics advising people to not have it etc. In Germany, as they aren't told what they're going to get people just aren't turning up for their vaccine appointments because they don't want the AZ one. The cocks in charge could at least send the AZ vaccines to those countries that are happy to use them.
Meanwhile the Croatians have joined the likes of Hungary and ordered a load of the Sputnik vaccine. France is staring down the barrel of a long lockdown as cases are steady at c20k/day.
So that EU unity that was the basis of the delayed procurement process is really working out for them now
That’s if I’ve just understood what they said on the news on the radio correctly.
I was reading another interesting piece last night on the issues of the "Nocebo effect", where people can experience physical side-effects from something even though they shouldn't, because they have a prior perception that they will. And this may be happening in EU countries now, particularly Italy, where medics are reporting severe side-effects from the AZ vaccine where we and other nations aren't.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:55 pm
TBF one of my colleagues had a pretty severe side effect, in that he basically had pretty harsh flu symptoms for 2-3 days after.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:53 pmThat's my understanding also.integrale_evo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:34 amMeanwhile here studies have shown one dose of the AZ vaccine reduces hospitalisation from corona by 94% after 4 weeks, while Pfizer is 85%. Real world people who have had it, not just medical trials.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:30 pm Depressing state of affairs in the EU. Political leaders have managed to do a great job of panning the AZ vaccine to the extent that in Germany they've only used c100,000 of the c700,000 they've received. Italian medics advising people to not have it etc. In Germany, as they aren't told what they're going to get people just aren't turning up for their vaccine appointments because they don't want the AZ one. The cocks in charge could at least send the AZ vaccines to those countries that are happy to use them.
Meanwhile the Croatians have joined the likes of Hungary and ordered a load of the Sputnik vaccine. France is staring down the barrel of a long lockdown as cases are steady at c20k/day.
So that EU unity that was the basis of the delayed procurement process is really working out for them now
That’s if I’ve just understood what they said on the news on the radio correctly.
I was reading another interesting piece last night on the issues of the "Nocebo effect", where people can experience physical side-effects from something even though they shouldn't, because they have a prior perception that they will. And this may be happening in EU countries now, particularly Italy, where medics are reporting severe side-effects from the AZ vaccine where we and other nations aren't.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:16 pm
So did my fatherduncs500 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:55 pmTBF one of my colleagues had a pretty severe side effect, in that he basically had pretty harsh flu symptoms for 2-3 days after.Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:53 pmThat's my understanding also.integrale_evo wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:34 am
Meanwhile here studies have shown one dose of the AZ vaccine reduces hospitalisation from corona by 94% after 4 weeks, while Pfizer is 85%. Real world people who have had it, not just medical trials.
That’s if I’ve just understood what they said on the news on the radio correctly.
I was reading another interesting piece last night on the issues of the "Nocebo effect", where people can experience physical side-effects from something even though they shouldn't, because they have a prior perception that they will. And this may be happening in EU countries now, particularly Italy, where medics are reporting severe side-effects from the AZ vaccine where we and other nations aren't.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:42 pm
I wonder if it's psychosomatic, none of the covid vaccines are live.