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Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:00 pm
by Beany
Mito Man wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:21 pm
I’m sure that’s not politically motivated at all
Oh for sure. It's more the irony of what trump would consider to be 'third world shitholes' telling their populace to keep out of the US because it's too much of a shithole.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:25 pm
by integrale_evo
Barry wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:54 pm
Where were all the gun owning winners during any of these shootings btw? That seems to be the crux of their arguments. I need a gun to fight off gun men.. fat good it seems to be doing.
Seems to be the default answer for anyone who doesn't want to give up their guns doesn't it.
Every time there's a mass shooting on the news I wonder where the hero who carries their gun for protection is.
I don't recall a gunman in any of them being killed by anyone other than themselves or the police

Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:27 pm
by Mito Man
I read some heated twitter argument. Apparently the El Paso shooting was in a gun free zone, so all the Americans were unarmed and couldn’t shoot the psycho. Otherwise they’d have all shot him instantly minimising loss of life. The lesson to take forward is to have no gun free zones.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:38 pm
by IanF
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:48 pm
by Beany
Yeah, and that's not an isolated incident - it's policy. One which they have decided to stop now.
But yeah. America, greatest nation on earth, etc.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:05 pm
by Beany
I'M PROTECTING MY STATE BY OPENLY CARRYING A FULLY LOADED SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE WITH ALL THE FIRE CONTROLS EXPOSED TO ANYONE BEHIND ME AND COMPLETLELY OUTSIDE OF MY CONTROL OTHER THAN BY AN EASILY REMOVABLE STRAP THAT WOULD BE FUNCTIONALLY USELESS AFTER I GET SHOT IN MY OWN CALF A FEW TIMES ANYWAY
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:11 pm
by Mito Man
His penis must be so small that it’s an inverse penis.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:19 pm
by Beany
I sort of understand that in a society where you have a *lot* of guns, you'd want to carry, through paranoia if nothing else.
But having a loaded rifle on your back? If you're that paranoid, why don't you think that some loony might come up behind you, flick off the safety, run the action, and shoot you right up the arse?
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:31 pm
by Mito Man
Always thought you’d be much better off with a concealed carry too. If a nutter is going to shoot people they’ll surely pick off the obvious threat carrying the AR first.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:00 am
by Beany
Mito Man wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:31 pm
Always thought you’d be much better off with a concealed carry too. If a nutter is going to shoot people they’ll surely pick off the obvious threat carrying the AR first.
That's generally been my mindset too.
The good guy with a gun is kinda useless if they get shot first.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:06 am
by NotoriousREV
1. Bad guy with a gun starts shooting
2. cops get called
3. Good guys with a gun start shooting back
4. cops turn up and start shooting at any/every active shooter
5. ???
6. Profit
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:38 am
by Carlos
Beany wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:48 pm
Yeah, and that's not an isolated incident - it's policy. One which they have decided to stop now.
But yeah. America, greatest nation on earth, etc.
If he was white would you have an issue with that ?
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:26 am
by Beany
Carlos wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:38 am
Beany wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:48 pm
Yeah, and that's not an isolated incident - it's policy. One which they have decided to stop now.
But yeah. America, greatest nation on earth, etc.
If he was white would you have an issue with that ?
Given that it's not the 1800s any more and we have these things called 'cop cars' which are safer, faster and have less chance of escape, then yeah - there is literally no need to rope someone up and parade them through town publicly.
That he's black is just the icing on the cake on this; you'd have to be
spectacularly stupid, or just plain low key racist, to not realise just how bad this would appear.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:55 am
by Carlos
Beany wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:26 am
Carlos wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:38 am
Beany wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:48 pm
Yeah, and that's not an isolated incident - it's policy. One which they have decided to stop now.
But yeah. America, greatest nation on earth, etc.
If he was white would you have an issue with that ?
Given that it's not the 1800s any more and we have these things called 'cop cars' which are safer, faster and have less chance of escape, then yeah - there is literally no need to rope someone up and parade them through town publicly.
That he's black is just the icing on the cake on this; you'd have to be
spectacularly stupid, or just plain low key racist, to not realise just how bad this would appear.

ok. If a White football hooligan gets bashed on the head and dragged away by the Mounted Police it wouldn't make the local news here.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:56 am
by Beany
The guy was being picked up for tresspass, not rioting and throwing chairs at people, you plum.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:00 am
by ZedLeg
I don't even need to see the link to know what you're referring to.
Seriously arguing that two cowboys dragging a black man on a rope doesn't look incredibly racist?
They couldn't have just radioed for a car to come and pick him up?
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:06 am
by NotoriousREV
It'S nOt RaCiSt iF i PuT a BuRnInG cRoSs On A wHiTe MaN's LaWn
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:10 pm
by Richard
Beany wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:19 pm
I sort of understand that in a society where you have a *lot* of guns, you'd want to carry, through paranoia if nothing else.
But having a loaded rifle on your back?
I can understand this.
I’m not sure there are many situations though where you’d actually be able to put your gun to good use. Unless you actually are John Rambo, you’re probably not John Rambo. By the time you draw you weapon, presumably the attacker has shot you?
Having a pistol for home defence, i can see maybe being handy? But don’t you usually have to keep them locked away, with the ammo separate etc? I guess that’s a state by state law?
I saw a film/programme once where the guy at the gun shop was saying that the very best form of home defence is the *sound* of you cocking a pump action shot gun - which I totally believe.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:48 pm
by Beany
America: Land of the Brave.
Motorcyle backfires*
No, really.
And yup, injuries from the stampede, although minor.
Re: Another mass shooting in America
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:00 pm
by Jimmy Choo
Richard wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:10 pm
I saw a film/programme once where the guy at the gun shop was saying that the very best form of home defence is the *sound* of you cocking a pump action shot gun - which I totally believe.
I was told the best home defence weapon was a flamethrower.
As for the "Good guy with a gun" story, someone tried that in Texas and got shot and killed by the accomplice (that he hadn't spotted) of the guy holding up the Walmart.