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I’ve a penchant for working breeds so anything from a Jack Russel to an English Mastiff.

I do not like any dog that needs carrying after a 30 minute walk or who genuinely need a coat to survive.

Dave!

V8Granite wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:44 am If you call me a right wing cunt and I call you a left wing snowflake I think we can return to the status quo .

Off to hunt bad breeders and if not, I’ll be in London with one of them in a couple of weeks so will get him to shit on Sunaks pillow.



Dave!

To be honest, I find walking past dogs like that very intimidating.

Carlos wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:51 am What's wrong with my dogs Duncs!

They don't look chunky or squashed faced, so they look ok!

I like most dogs to say hello to as long as they're chilled. Slobbery, jumpy, barky ones of any shape or size are pretty irritating though.

We always had lurchers and greyhounds when I was growing up, they've usually got a great temperament but anything that looks remotely small and cuddly needs to die in their heads.

I guess using that as an example, you can really see the inherent breeding in them, because to chase something like a rabbit is totally instinctive.

The first thing I thought of after seeing that was Warldorf and Statler...



"You know, living with someone who wrestles Bears, I thought the food would be better"

Nathan wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:52 pm

V8Granite wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:44 am If you call me a right wing cunt and I call you a left wing snowflake I think we can return to the status quo .

Off to hunt bad breeders and if not, I’ll be in London with one of them in a couple of weeks so will get him to shit on Sunaks pillow.



Dave!

To be honest, I find walking past dogs like that very intimidating.

I find walking past smokers disgusting, it’s a public place though and we should all expect things won’t be perfect.

I genuinely make a point of showing control over my dogs. It’s a given as people see badly behaved smaller dogs and no-one cares but bigger dogs do need greater control. On the school run if we see someone with a pram we’ve not seen before I make them sit and then wait till they go past. We have a couple of kids who run up and say hello regularly.

We’ve had people jump in the road etc but they’ve never given a reason for someone to do that, if they want to jump in the road that’s on them. I have more issues with people cycling on the paths close to my kids but as I don’t own them I just let people go about their day.

Dave!

dinny_g wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:19 pm

The first thing I thought of after seeing that was Warldorf and Statler...



"You know, living with someone who wrestles Bears, I thought the food would be better"

I always think

"Two pints please mate. And a pie for me. You want a pie? No? OK, two pints, one pie and one sausage roll".

They definitely look like dogs who'd enjoy a pint of Guinness

ZedLeg wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:57 pm They definitely look like dogs who'd enjoy a pint of Guinness

You are quite correct

Dave!

V8Granite wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:41 pm

Nathan wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 1:52 pm

V8Granite wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:44 am If you call me a right wing cunt and I call you a left wing snowflake I think we can return to the status quo .

Off to hunt bad breeders and if not, I’ll be in London with one of them in a couple of weeks so will get him to shit on Sunaks pillow.



Dave!

To be honest, I find walking past dogs like that very intimidating.

I find walking past smokers disgusting, it’s a public place though and we should all expect things won’t be perfect.

I genuinely make a point of showing control over my dogs. It’s a given as people see badly behaved smaller dogs and no-one cares but bigger dogs do need greater control. On the school run if we see someone with a pram we’ve not seen before I make them sit and then wait till they go past. We have a couple of kids who run up and say hello regularly.

We’ve had people jump in the road etc but they’ve never given a reason for someone to do that, if they want to jump in the road that’s on them. I have more issues with people cycling on the paths close to my kids but as I don’t own them I just let people go about their day.

Dave!

On the flip side- My Toby looks like butter wouldn’t melt but in reality he’s a right cunt. He can see another dog and be nice as pie and the next minute react to a different dog and be barking and lunging at them. We’ve never managed to get that out of him and I don’t think we ever will

And another one...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-67004053

And another attack - 20 month old kid this time. Thankfully, this one not fatal

https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/03/xl-bully ... -19594253/

Has anyone been prosecuted for bad breeding or anything other than them not being registered or muzzled ?

It must have been horrific for everyone involved.

Dave?

I don't know anything about prosecutions, either what for, or how many. That goes for any and all breeds, though I wonder if there's a degree of "it's alright, it isn't a banned breed" when it comes to the press.


This statement from the news story;

"Dog trainer Michaela Scott, who lives near the house where the woman died in Hornchurch, said attacks like this could be scary for people who did not work with this breed."

Que ?

That’s the thing, they were originally bred to be more docile and relaxed. A well socialised bully breed is a great dog for families.

These have been ruined by some fuckwits in the U.K. making aggressive dogs that then cant be handled by their owners and it’s showing.

Saying it’s by people aren’t used to the breed is a ridiculous statement, it’s the individual dog, not the breed, the breeders need bringing to touch. So many “breeders” just make puppies, absolute fucktards, proper breeders improve or maintain the breed. These are inbred dogs and now people who are ignorant of the issues are getting hurt.

Dave!

V8Granite wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 2:17 pm That’s the thing, they were originally bred to be more docile and relaxed. A well socialised bully breed is a great dog for families.

Alas, that takes work, effort, interest that is often neglected and they should have got a stuffed toy (that goes for all breeds, of course). If I look for studies, I wonder if there are similarities between how people raise their pets and their children?

V8Granite wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 2:17 pmSo many “breeders” just make puppies, proper breeders improve or maintain the breed.

Lockdown was a hateful time for that, it seemed people wanted to get a puppy as young as possible and pay as much for it as possible "for the kids". Lots of two year olds at shelters now that need a lot of care and attention to get back on an even keel
Improving the breed - a while back I read an article about German Shepherds, considerate breeding, and how the sloping back and hip dysplasia problems were being bred out and getting them back to how they were a century ago. I think similar is going on with English Bulldogs.
The Dutch are doing their best for flat-faced animals; https://dogstodaymagazine.co.uk/2023/07 ... all-about/

I took a new fwend (he’s renting a room off me) out for a beer tonight as he spent £5k today on relay mediation about seeing his 1yr old son after splitting up with his girlfriend (she dumped him, possibly for someone new).

Anyway, went to a local pub, open door and there’s a dog asleep 6ft from the entrance near the bar. We went to the bar, ordered a drink and 10 mins later I hear a knock on the door “is that dog okay?”. I walk over and reply “what, this dog? I think so” and ask the owner to move their dog in case a nervous pet wants to come in.. instead a “only 18 month old” XL comes in, the owner can’t control it. When it pulls, she goes with it. And then it starts to get “excited” with the other dog, they are pulled apart and for the 2nd time, the first dog is moved where the XL isn’t. I voice my concerns to the Landlord and all the patrons nearby express agreement; none of us feel we’d be able to fight off the ball of muscle and fury that had just come in and shown such aggression.

Later on, the lady brings her XL back into the bar area and shows she still doesn’t have control over her pet with it pulling straight over to the placid other dog.. thankfully they leave their drinks and take their dog out the pub.

I’ve known all sorts of dogs, big dogs, vicious ones, (I have scars to prove it), but I love dogs.. tonight I was afraid of one

She was doing the right thing for the dog but simply wasn’t able to control it.

Keeping dogs away from situations is wrong, they need to get used to them and see them as non scary etc. the problem being when they can’t control the animal physically.

Also, was it in a harness ?

Unless they are being trained to pull them a harness is such a stupid modern thing, I really don’t see the need for them at all. The idea that it hurts the neck is just plain false, the right collar on the right dog and it’s absolutely fine.

Dave!

My SIL brought her Husky Malamute cross over a few years back. A Dogs trust rescue and had her on a harness and extendable lead. First time she trotted off was hilarious

Dave!

Nasty local incident today where a large staff/bull breed cross mauled the owners adult son whilst they were out for a run on school fields and the mum is bleating on Facebook about missing the dog as it was shot or put down by police!

Armed police everywhere, air ambulance and poor chap chewed to the bone. It's like a murder scene and she's still mourning the dog.

Hopefully a prison sentence will put people off owning these things. They aren't pets!