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Alex_ wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:08 am Evonomics have kicked in: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... esc&page=1

beautiful! Remember to stick to SUL too, Service station rates are especially hilarious for that!

Jobbo wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:43 am Work out the difference to your pocket between 50 and 40mpg (bet the gap wouldn't be that wide in reality) before choosing the 4-cyl

Always this. e.g. if looking at non-M 3-series diesels the 330d won't be much different on economy but an infinitely nicer experience. Possibly less prone to bursting into flames than the 2l derv unit as well.

And on the Arteon/Superb (apologies for keep banging that drum ) the 272/280 2.0 TSI will comfortably clock north of 40mpg on an m-way schlep at c80. Being the EA888 engine it also remaps fairly comfortably to 350+bhp

Can't believe no one has suggested a Citroen C6 or a Vel Satis yet

Yesterday afternoon, I test drove a few 3 series. The local-ish dealer has four 19 plate 320d F31 Tourings (all auto and Shadow Edition i.e. black trim in and out). Rear seats and space are fine but the boot isn't exactly big. I'd say it's only slightly deeper than my 2 series coupe but a bit taller. The 2L lump wasn't as noisy as some people say they are and performance is fine.

The 2L diesel in the newer G20 is a step up and the new 330d is just lovely, I much prefer it. Also, rear leg room is impressive in the new G20 and it looks much better than the F30/F31.

Going back to space, I've realised the 3 series saloon or touring has more than enough space for a family of three. Also, the wife is on the case to get an Alphard LOLz.

If she’s getting an alphard, why do you need an estate?

Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am If she’s getting an alphard, why do you need an estate?

I don't if she finds a decent one. But she's likely to change her mind again.

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am But she's likely to change her mind again.

A lady? I find that difficult to believe Alex.

Get an Alphard and an M3. All problems solved.

mik wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:43 am

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am But she's likely to change her mind again.

A lady? I find that difficult to believe Alex.

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am

Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am If she’s getting an alphard, why do you need an estate?

I don't if she finds a decent one. But she's likely to change her mind again.

Has she thought about the indicator stalk being on the wrong side, the Japanese text so she doesn't know what the sat nav and stereo does, etc? Fun for someone who wants a bit of JDM-yo, maybe not for someone who just thinks they look funky.

We all know it’s because she’s going to have 5 kids. Might as well scrap the 3 series plan and also go for a 7 seat X5

Jobbo wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:06 am

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am

Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am If she’s getting an alphard, why do you need an estate?

I don't if she finds a decent one. But she's likely to change her mind again.

Has she thought about the indicator stalk being on the wrong side, the Japanese text so she doesn't know what the sat nav and stereo does, etc? Fun for someone who wants a bit of JDM-yo, maybe not for someone who just thinks they look funky.

She uses her parent's Alphard all the text. But aye, the stalks on the wrong side is a bloody pain.

Jobbo wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:06 am Has she thought about the indicator stalk being on the wrong side, the Japanese text so she doesn't know what the sat nav and stereo does, etc? Fun for someone who wants a bit of JDM-yo, maybe not for someone who just thinks they look funky.

And the plastic. Acres of plastic. Nobody does plastic quite like the Japanese.

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:22 am

Jobbo wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:06 am

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am

I don't if she finds a decent one. But she's likely to change her mind again.

Has she thought about the indicator stalk being on the wrong side, the Japanese text so she doesn't know what the sat nav and stereo does, etc? Fun for someone who wants a bit of JDM-yo, maybe not for someone who just thinks they look funky.

She uses her parent's Alphard all the text. But aye, the stalks on the wrong side is a bloody pain.

That was a pain on the VXR8 too. There should be a global standard for shizzle like that.

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am

Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am If she’s getting an alphard, why do you need an estate?

I don't if she finds a decent one. But she's likely to change her mind again.

stop dicking about with chopping in a car you do want for a car you don’t want, and find her an Alftard then!

Some people just don’t help themselves!

Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:42 am

Alex_ wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:34 am

Rich B wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:28 am If she’s getting an alphard, why do you need an estate?

I don't if she finds a decent one. But she's likely to change her mind again.

stop dicking about with chopping in a car you do want for a car you don’t want, and find her an Alftard then!

It also means that it removes as much blame from you as possible if/when she decides she doesn't like it and it was the wrong car afterall.

Surely the car h wants is an Alphard and an M3?

Orange Cola wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:08 pm Surely the car h wants is an Alphard and an M3?

Suggesting the M3 was the equivalent of Rev saying he’ll install an LS motor in every car he gets.

Alex_ wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:08 am Evonomics have kicked in: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... esc&page=1

That's stunning!

I've obviously lost track of M3s, because I saw this one listed on Collecting Cars and think it just looks like a boggo standard 3 series with bits on. Where are the curves and flared bits?

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2007-bmw-e92-m3

I never really liked the e92 because the rear end looks all wrong, that rear 3/4 photo really shows it off.

The e90 saloon version always appealed more because the rear end looked a lot more squat.