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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:32 am
by KiwiDave
unzippy wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:07 am Birthday dinner at https://escagrill.com.au/, cancelled :roll:
Arse.

We're back in a Level 3 lockdown again today - three community cases and bang, no messing.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:39 am
by dinny_g
So what's the end game for New Zealand in this Dave - Keep up the current measures until the whole population can be vaccinated? Vaccine Passports, tests and short term Isolation for all visitors going forward ?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 am
by Foz
We need to learn to live with this now, that’s the end game post vaccinating the most vulnerable.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:41 am
by duncs500
Foz wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 am We need to learn to live with this now, that’s the end game post vaccinating the most vulnerable.
Agreed. Although I'm happy for them to keep this lockdown going (for a short while) longer if it means it's a.) the last one, and b.) the road map about what happens next is clear and involves some semblance of normal life.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:55 am
by Rich B
duncs500 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:41 am
Foz wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 am We need to learn to live with this now, that’s the end game post vaccinating the most vulnerable.
Agreed. Although I'm happy for them to keep this lockdown going (for a short while) longer if it means it's a.) the last one, and b.) the road map about what happens next is clear and involves some semblance of normal life.
Yeah, I think that's the general feeling isn't it, we can put up with this one being an extended period if it does the job of breaking the cycle.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:57 am
by Broccers
The question is - what will happen in November when the jab doesnt actually seem to work.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:07 pm
by Rich B
Broccers wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:57 am The question is - what will happen in November when the jab doesnt actually seem to work.
oddly specific timeframe there.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 pm
by Nathan
I know of someone who has tested positive 5 weeks after receiving the vaccination

False positive because of the antibodies?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:17 pm
by duncs500
Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 pm I know of someone who has tested positive 5 weeks after receiving the vaccination

False positive because of the antibodies?
Do they have severe illness?

It doesn't have 100% efficacy so people will still get it, it should reduce serious illness considerably though (I hope!).

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 pm
by duncs500
Rich B wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:07 pm
Broccers wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:57 am The question is - what will happen in November when the jab doesnt actually seem to work.
oddly specific timeframe there.
That's probably what one of his antivax conspiracy people said.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 pm
by Nathan
duncs500 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:17 pm
Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 pm I know of someone who has tested positive 5 weeks after receiving the vaccination

False positive because of the antibodies?
Do they have severe illness?

It doesn't have 100% efficacy so people will still get it, it should reduce serious illness considerably though (I hope!).
No symptoms, mid 50s

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:19 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 pm I know of someone who has tested positive 5 weeks after receiving the vaccination

False positive because of the antibodies?
You can still catch it once you've had the jab. The first jab doesn't start to become effective until around wk8 IIRC, and even then you still need the 2nd jab ideally.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:29 pm
by Nathan
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:19 pm
Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 pm I know of someone who has tested positive 5 weeks after receiving the vaccination

False positive because of the antibodies?
You can still catch it once you've had the jab. The first jab doesn't start to become effective until around wk8 IIRC, and even then you still need the 2nd jab ideally.
I've read 2 weeks, which I thought would be too soon

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:35 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
"Starts to offer some protection" from 2 weeks I think.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:41 pm
by V8Granite
There was a report that said no-one had been hospitalised who had been given the jab wasn’t there ?

Dave!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:01 pm
by Beany
I suppose that would make sense, as they'll have antibodies already presumably

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:28 pm
by Jobbo
Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 pm
duncs500 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:17 pm
Nathan wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:14 pm I know of someone who has tested positive 5 weeks after receiving the vaccination

False positive because of the antibodies?
Do they have severe illness?

It doesn't have 100% efficacy so people will still get it, it should reduce serious illness considerably though (I hope!).
No symptoms, mid 50s
Why did they take the test, if vaccinated and with no symptoms?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:34 pm
by Mito Man
I had a letter saying you're meant to have it every week or 2 weeks (can't remember) if you go out the house even with no symptoms.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:36 pm
by Mito Man
Found it, they started sending loads of letters and texts when the Kent variant was first discovered. Didn't get the letter in London though...

https://www.kent.gov.uk/social-care-and ... ee-testing

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:36 pm
by Broccers
duncs500 wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 pm
Rich B wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:07 pm
Broccers wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:57 am The question is - what will happen in November when the jab doesnt actually seem to work.
oddly specific timeframe there.
That's probably what one of his antivax conspiracy people said.
History, lockdown 2. But you guys knew that obvs https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prim ... strictions