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Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:11 pm
by GG.
Beany implied that right wing (or right of centre journalists) wouldn't run the story. Doesn't look like that's the case.
You raise a good point that many on the soft right detest Badenoch so that could be the motivation as likely all the others are doing similar things.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:14 pm
by nuttinnew
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 8:34 pm
by Beany
Well, that was about as funny as eating gravel.
Edit - oh, it's this utter clown, that explains it.
In July 2021, following the defeat of the England national football team in the final of the UEFA Euro 2020 competition on penalties to Italy, Lawrence tweeted that "All I'm saying is the white guys scored
", in reference to the skin colour of the players who had scored in the penalty shootout. After a backlash, he quote tweeted his original tweet, stating that "I can see that this has offended a lot of people, and I'm sorry that black guys are bad at penalties.
". Following the incident, multiple venues cancelled his upcoming shows and publicly denounced his comments as racist. He was also dropped by his agent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_La ... (comedian)
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:56 pm
by Jobbo
āComedianā seems generous. Saying heās not political seems blatantly incorrect. I doubt heāll ever have the popularity to become the next Jim Davidson.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:55 am
by ZedLeg
Wes Streeting seems to be trying to turn the NHS into an engine to humiliate the poor and disabled.
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/202 ... -streeting
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:58 am
by 240PP
The population is getting fatter and itās not all down to being poor/disabled.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:59 am
by ZedLeg
Giving everyone ozempic isnāt a solution.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:08 am
by dinny_g
It's a bit dystopian, isn't it...
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
by ZedLeg
Aye, Iād like to see inside Wes Streetingās mind tbh.
No healthcare for trans people but letās pump fat folk full of diabetes medicine. Iād bet thereās an idea for benefit sanctions for anyone who refuses.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:29 am
by Gavster
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:59 am
Giving everyone ozempic isnāt a solution.
It really is a solution (a, as in singular, not the only solution, but absolutely can be one of many policies that could help people). Given how poor diets, obesity and the consequent health issues/NCDs are one of the biggest health threats and resultant costs to the NHS in this country.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:38 am
by ZedLeg
Iād agree that in extreme cases it should be an option but āmaybe if we get these fatties off the couch, theyāll get jobsā isnāt an extreme case.
When we were in Edinburgh, my partner got a free gym membership to help their mental health and weight management and it worked amazingly well.
Also wonāt contribute to the global shortage of diabetes medicine
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:39 am
by ZedLeg
Letās not forget that extreme weight loss methods like ozempic generally donāt work in the long term.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:47 am
by 240PP
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:59 am
Giving everyone ozempic isnāt a solution.
What is the solution then? Because it appears a lot of people arenāt able to take the initiative themselves on what is actually a simple problem.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:50 am
by ZedLeg
Education and support.
A lot of the problems weāre currently having would be solved by properly funded social care.
Canāt make enough money for your pals in the private sector with that though.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:51 am
by dinny_g
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:12 am
Aye, Iād like to see inside Wes Streetingās mind tbh.
His Novo Nordisk share dividend ???
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:53 am
by MikeHunt
I expect one of the outcomes of 2020 and the pandemic would be a focus on making the population healthier.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am
by 240PP
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:50 am
Education and support.
A lot of the problems weāre currently having would be solved by properly funded social care.
Education and support in the form of what? Cooking from scratch can be done on the cheap and thereās a million recipes on the internet, for free. I get that itās easier to slide a frozen pizza into the oven, though.
Nobody needs to look perfect but I find it mind-boggling how people need education and support to not be overweight. Thereās arguably more āeducation and supportā right now than there ever has been yet obesity levels are getting higher.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:14 am
by ZedLeg
There isnāt though, social care is woefully underfunded and cooking is only easy if you know how to do it.
You need to make long term changes to peopleās behaviour to get results here.
All this will do is funnel a lot of money from government into the private sector, which is what they really want.
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:18 am
by 240PP
ZedLeg wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:14 am
There isnāt though, social care is woefully underfunded and cooking is only easy if you know how to do it.
As I said, very simple recipes are all there if anyone wants to have a go.
Why is obesity a social care issue?
Re: Bye bye Starmer
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:22 am
by ZedLeg
Getting people out of the house and taking better care of themselves is a social care issue.
", in reference to the skin colour of the players who had scored in the penalty shootout. After a backlash, he quote tweeted his original tweet, stating that "I can see that this has offended a lot of people, and I'm sorry that black guys are bad at penalties. 
". Following the incident, multiple venues cancelled his upcoming shows and publicly denounced his comments as racist. He was also dropped by his agent.