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Shapeist!

mik wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:16 am

Mito Man wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:35 am Weird, does an EV need that much cooling? I think the first car that started those holes was the Jaguar Project 8 and I thought it always looked shit because of it.

they're also set into their own grill panel, so they're basically a painted grill and not holes in a painted bumper.

I quite like style holes. The new staria always makes me look twice:

Carlos wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:47 am Are they holes or "styling" ?

I thought the holes were just for styling in and around that front area which commonly now has sensors and cameras to accommodate and hide?

Ascender wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:43 am

Carlos wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:47 am Are they holes or "styling" ?

I thought the holes were just for styling in and around that front area which commonly now has sensors and cameras to accommodate and hide?

well they've really done a nice job of hiding those!!!

It looks worse close up

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images ... how_85.jpg

Nasty!

Ascender wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:43 am

Carlos wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:47 am Are they holes or "styling" ?

I thought the holes were just for styling in and around that front area which commonly now has sensors and cameras to accommodate and hide?

That’s another pet hate, how can some manufacturers just hide all the radar and sensor units behind the grill/bumper (Tesla are a good example) yet you get premium brands like Volvo and Mercedes with a great big plastic rectangle radar unit or a huge plastic badge to hide it behind

Carlos wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:54 am It looks worse close up

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images ... how_85.jpg

That can’t be good for drag can it

Lord M, speaking the truth.

Most of the way through his rant and yeah, can't really argue with that.

Is there a TLDR?

Just taxed the Zoe for another year. I can't but wonder if there's a better way than to print and send a notification letter for a £0 payment. Couldn't the system just automatically renew any car tax where the value is £0?

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:03 pm Just taxed the Zoe for another year. I can't but wonder if there's a better way than to print and send a notification letter for a £0 payment. Couldn't the system just automatically renew any car tax where the value is £0?

no point in setting up a whole separate system - they'd only have to switch it back when they start charging for the vehicles that are currently £0.

That. It’s not intended to stay at £0 forever hence the slightly odd method.

It wouldn't be a separate system though. All it requires is a bit of code added to the management system that checks the registration against the tax band and if tax = 0 it just renews. Wouldn't even need to remove it when they start charging for EVs.

Mito Man wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:20 pm Is there a TLDR?

The sales numbers were fudged (see also fleet emissions), and we should be encouraged to maintain existing ICE rather than this wasteful trend of swapping to a new car every three years.

Also, the charging network just isn't anywhere near good enough.

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:18 pm It wouldn't be a separate system though. All it requires is a bit of code added to the management system that checks the registration against the tax band and if tax = 0 it just renews. Wouldn't even need to remove it when they start charging for EVs.

how would it deal with sorn cars? At the moment the system all ties in to show when a car is off the road, adding code to auto renew would eventually lead to a mass of cars renewing their tax that aren't even on the road.

Rich B wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:22 pm

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:18 pm It wouldn't be a separate system though. All it requires is a bit of code added to the management system that checks the registration against the tax band and if tax = 0 it just renews. Wouldn't even need to remove it when they start charging for EVs.

how would it deal with sorn cars? At the moment the system all ties in to show when a car is off the road, adding code to auto renew would eventually lead to a mass of cars renewing their tax that aren't even on the road.

It can check two fields. One for SORN status and if that's "no" then check the tax band. If that equals zero, it is automatically renewed. There may be more factors, but it isn't a difficult logic to work out and automate.

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:25 pm

Rich B wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:22 pm

DeskJockey wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:18 pm It wouldn't be a separate system though. All it requires is a bit of code added to the management system that checks the registration against the tax band and if tax = 0 it just renews. Wouldn't even need to remove it when they start charging for EVs.

how would it deal with sorn cars? At the moment the system all ties in to show when a car is off the road, adding code to auto renew would eventually lead to a mass of cars renewing their tax that aren't even on the road.

It can check two fields. One for SORN status and if that's "no" then check the tax band. If that equals zero, it is automatically renewed. There may be more factors, but it isn't a difficult logic to work out and automate.

or they could just leave it the way it works.