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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:25 am
by GG.
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:38 am
Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:25 am Anyone got Thomson shares? Ouch.
I’m glad I sold all of my On the Beach shares when I did.
Well, you self isolated yourself from the tourism industry in a very timely manner :lol:

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:38 am
by JonMad
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:08 am
Sundayjumper wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:27 am You can console yourself knowing that I have money in a FTSE100 tracker. Ho-hum. It'll recover eventually.
Yep. You’ve only lost money if you actually sell now.
Maybe buy some more?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:40 am
by JonMad
I avoided visiting some older relatives at the weekend. I've got a bit of a tight chest* but no temperature, no continuous cough, but am WFH just in case it does get worse.

*brother in law who's a paramedic wondered if it was a residual ache from the harnesses last weekend but I don't think we crashed that quickly!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:40 am
by Broccers
NotoriousREV wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:08 am
Sundayjumper wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:27 am You can console yourself knowing that I have money in a FTSE100 tracker. Ho-hum. It'll recover eventually.
Yep. You’ve only lost money if you actually sell now.
I used to think that too. Selling at a loss and using the money to buy at a lower level is far wiser.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:53 am
by Swervin_Mervin
This will be my last day in the office now. Going to be fun two of us wfh! I'm also going to prep our spare bedroom later in case a quick isolation is required

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:15 am
by mik
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:53 am I'm also going to prep our spare bedroom later in case a quick isolation is required
Euphemism?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:33 am
by Swervin_Mervin
mik wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:15 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:53 am I'm also going to prep our spare bedroom later in case a quick isolation is required
Euphemism?
I wish :(

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:36 am
by Mito Man
😂 50 boxes and Kleenex and KY Jelly later...

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:33 pm
by Simon
This is a good article from the Washington Post. Watch the simulations.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:41 pm
by V8Granite
mik wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:15 am
Swervin_Mervin wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:53 am I'm also going to prep our spare bedroom later in case a quick isolation is required
Euphemism?
He’s going to build a little fort.

Image

Dave!

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:45 pm
by NotoriousREV
The question is like answered most is why is our government doing something very different from pretty much every other country. They keep telling us the experts are being listened to, so why can’t they share what the strategy is and why?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:52 pm
by Mito Man
Because that’s what the simulation said. As for how accurate the simulation is...

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:23 pm
by Broccers
The answer is ban short selling.

Watch the usa market get suspended today.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:03 pm
by NotoriousREV
Broccers wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:23 pm The answer is ban short selling.

Watch the usa market get suspended today.
They have circuit breakers at 7% (20 minute suspension for everyone to calm the fuck down), 13% (Another 20 minute break, we warned you!) and 20% (no more trading for the day, go home and think about your life choices).

They’ve already suspended once today and they’ve only been trading an hour.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:07 pm
by Mito Man
Free market economy my ass

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:33 pm
by ZedLeg
This is probably just my own bias showing but a lot of the response to this that we've seen from the UK and US seems to be more focused on stopping our unsustainable economic system from collapsing rather than actually helping people.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:40 pm
by duncs500
The impact of the economy coming crashing down will probably result in much more suffering than this corona could cause.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:44 pm
by Swervin_Mervin
ZedLeg wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:33 pm This is probably just my own bias showing but a lot of the response to this that we've seen from the UK and US seems to be more focused on stopping our unsustainable economic system from collapsing rather than actually helping people.
Yes, because stopping economic collapse does nothing to help people...

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:50 pm
by NotoriousREV
I watched The Big Short yesterday. They quoted the stat that every additional 1% unemployment leads to 40,000 deaths in the US.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:55 pm
by ZedLeg
I'm not saying they should just let it collapse but the balance between protecting the markets and protecting the population seems off to me.

Boris's mad herd immunity idea (I swear someone in his office has misunderstood how it works) looks to me like they're trying to push through the epidemic as quickly as possible with a high human cost being acceptable.

The US managed to find like $1.5 trillion to prop up the markets for what, half an hour? But they can't pay people sick pay or guarantee that any vaccine that comes will be affordable to people without insurance.

Again this is almost certainly my bias but it looks like they're protecting the money at the cost of people.