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Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:44 am
by dinny_g
DaveE wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:15 am
Really interesting to hear the lengths Mercedes goes to to keep trucks on the road though
A good portion of Mercedes Trucks, when the come back of 3 year Lease Deals are brought to a facility up Barnsley way, converted to left hand drive and sold onto the continent where they live on for 10 more years and an additional 750k miles…
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:35 pm
by mikeyb
dinny_g wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:44 am
DaveE wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:15 am
Really interesting to hear the lengths Mercedes goes to to keep trucks on the road though
A good portion of Mercedes Trucks, when the come back of 3 year Lease Deals are brought to a facility up Barnsley way, converted to left hand drive and sold onto the continent where they live on for 10 more years and an additional 750k miles…
The used truck market (both doemstically and internationally) is very strong at the moment...
Are you in the haulage industry Dinny?
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:42 pm
by dinny_g
No, just got chatting to some Truck folks at a show. I'm on the financial services side but the technology is amazing.
Did you know Mercedes Trucks have 5 separate braking systems all working in unison, including a restriction system on the valves for mechanical braking as well as a system on the drive shaft and the Gear Box.
One of the Renault units had suspension on the cab so the axels didn't need as much suspension to aid with traction and tyre wear, Mad stuff altogether. The Renault guy claimed that driving through a major city, the catalytic converter cleaned the air so much that what came out the exhaust was cleaner than what went in but that seemed like a stretch to me.
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:51 pm
by Mito Man
That just reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson reviewing the 911 many years ago
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:54 pm
by mikeyb
dinny_g wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:42 pm
No, just got chatting to some Truck folks at a show. I'm on the financial services side but the technology is amazing.
Did you know Mercedes Trucks have 5 separate braking systems all working in unison, including a restriction system on the valves for mechanical braking as well as a system on the drive shaft and the Gear Box.
One of the Renault units had suspension on the cab so the axels didn't need as much suspension to aid with traction and tyre wear, Mad stuff altogether. The Renault guy claimed that driving through a major city, the catalytic converter cleaned the air so much that what came out the exhaust was cleaner than what went in but that seemed like a stretch to me.
"restriction system on the valves for mechanical braking" - sounds like that is what's commonly known as a jake brake.
I don't work in the industry but am a bit of a geek when it comes to trucks, mainly Scania V8s. I grew up going away with dad in the wagon when he drove. He's now a director of a haulage company that has over 600 trucks, so the geekiness has expanded to the numbers side of the business. Eg: we were chatting about fuel costs and the company bill is currently £700k per week
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:56 pm
by dinny_g
To be fair, I'm no expert - I was amazed to hear that Truck Brakes are always locked and the Hydraulics holds them open so if the system fails, they lock on. this is why you occasionally see a long single skid mark on the motorway.
however, when I told people, it seems like this was a well known fact...
also - 700k per week...
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:53 pm
by V8Granite
Some of the big stuff used to move our kit has eddy current brakes which is the work of voodoo and the devil.
Dave!
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 am
by Carlos
Range in the i3s has taken a hammering this week typically 120 miles from a charge down from 180 in the summer
That's still at least 2 days driving but i'm surprised at the size of the drop.
On the plus side i remembered you can program the <> button on the key to defrost and preheat the car remotely
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:19 am
by Barry
Similar here, reckon I'd lose 30% range over all in the current cold temps. Mines the base model though, no heat pump or heated seats to take the strain, so it's all battery.
The quick warm up is much better though, windows are clear by the time I've scraped the ice off the outside.
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:33 am
by KevH18
Our Kona has gone from about 260/270 in the summer to 204 on a full charge this morning. The 1 1/2 mile drive back from school was only 2.2m/kw, whereas it can be over 10 normally as it's mostly downhill. Heating is not the EV's friend!
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:30 pm
by Mito Man
The Tesla does a break down of how the energy is used. In 99.6 miles of driving it used an extra 30.5 miles worth of range just for heating.
Driving like a cunt only added 13.3 miles of additional consumption.
Therefore with EVs in winter it’s cheaper to drive very fast and get home quicker so you use less energy warming the cabin.
In conclusion driving faster is saving the planet.
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:03 pm
by DeskJockey
Zoe reports a range of 128 miles, down from a best of 150-something.
Was going to drive it to the office today, but as that's 124 miles round-trip and there's no on-site chargers (site owner/manager apparently will install some "eventually"), I thought that would be pushing my luck. So took the Galaxy instead.
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:43 pm
by Explosive Newt
Mito Man wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:30 pm
The Tesla does a break down of how the energy is used. In 99.6 miles of driving it used an extra 30.5 miles worth of range just for heating.
Driving like a cunt only added 13.3 miles of additional consumption.
Therefore with EVs in winter it’s cheaper to drive very fast and get home quicker so you use less energy warming the cabin.
In conclusion driving faster is saving the planet.
Where do you find this amazing app?
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:52 pm
by Mito Man
Explosive Newt wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:43 pm
Where do you find this amazing app?
Press the square with the 3 dots inside (just to the right of the app currently open) which shows you all the apps and then its the green graph one.
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:37 pm
by Carlos
I've mentioned previously that i'm convinced some of the main stream media is sponsored anti ev propaganda but the Daily Fail piece on ev's collapsing multi storey car parks is a new level
They've compared the weight of a Tesla 3 to a Mk3 Cortina and i think they've even made those weights up lol
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:25 pm
by V8Granite
To be fair, when 50% of cars are EV that will be a huge difference.
Also, around Peterborough, someone figured out that the rebar that was used wasn’t lasting as well as they had hoped, so the market car park had to be torn down plus all the bridges had to be re-enforced.
So anti EV propaganda, or a way of keeping the 1970s building backhanders out of the press
Dave!
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:02 pm
by Jobbo
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:07 pm
by Barry
Well, you have got an hour to kill I suppose..
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:21 pm
by Mito Man
Need more activities to fill the other 55 minutes though.
Re: EV Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:11 pm
by nuttinnew
Carlos wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:37 pm
I've mentioned previously that i'm convinced some of the main stream media is sponsored anti ev propaganda but the Daily Fail piece on ev's collapsing multi storey car parks is a new level
They've compared the weight of a Tesla 3 to a Mk3 Cortina and i think they've even made those weights up lol
Could you post a link, please? I've had a quick look but couldn't see it, saw enough to want to stop looking though (albeit with one good story I'll post elsewhere).
